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Re: Multiple Deposit Money factor [buynewbimmer] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 10, 2005 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: buynewbimmer (Dec 09, 2005 8:04 pm)

The security deposit is always the payment, rounded up to the next $50 increment.. So, payment of $526/mo... security deposit is $550..
 
You took the long way to get there, but your calculation is correct.. Just add the cap cost + residual, and multiply by the difference in money factor...
 
($40K + $24K) X .00025 = $16/mo. X 36 mo. = $576
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Internet Quote in the Chicago Area by polyn
Dec 10, 2005 (9:32 am)
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I sent a couple of emails offering to pay $1000 over invoice for 2006 325xi. These offers were pretty much accepted. Anyone got better price than $1000 over invoice in this area?
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Re: Multiple Deposit Money factor [kyfdx] by buynewbimmer
Dec 10, 2005 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 10, 2005 6:22 am)

OK, thanks. They are a lot better than the numbers in October.
 
Jim
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Re: Thank You and My Experience [agbasher] by poppak
Dec 10, 2005 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: agbasher (Dec 09, 2005 6:17 pm)

agbasher
 
1. Look up the MSRP/Invoice here on edmunds new car prices.
 
2. The $700 above invoice I was willing to pay is a bit arbitrary. I've followed the forums here for about 2-3 months and seems like the lowest price anyone's paid was $500 over invoice. I think $700 is a fair price to pay a dealer for filling out some paperwork. At least one dealer thought it was fair too.
 
By the way, out of the 9 dealers that I emailed, 2 simply replied that they could not do it for that price. So it seems like the $500-700 above invoice is their cut-off for making deals (currently)
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DONT HATE ME!!!!..325 what should I pay!! by salraf
Dec 11, 2005 (12:25 am)
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I am sure people who frequent this message board get tired of this but here it goes....
 
I have no idea what I should expect to pay for the following:
 
2005 325 convertible...titanium silver, gray leather, blue top.
 
steptronic...2 yr/24k lease...0 down..
I have heard conflicting reports about residual and money factor..
I am looking to buy in the next 2 weeks so any help is appreciated..
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Re: DONT HATE ME!!!!..325 what should I pay!! [salraf] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 11, 2005 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: salraf (Dec 11, 2005 12:25 am)

What is the MSRP?
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MACO Fees by buynewbimmer
Dec 11, 2005 (10:02 am)
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A few weeks ago, I requested a quote from a dealer for a 2006 325i through the Costco program. I got an email back saying "$750 over invoice," and literally nothing more. I since got advice from posts here NOT to get a price by asking for a certain margin over invoice (e.g., $750 above invoice), but rather to get a specific price for a specific vehicle (thanks kydfx!). This way, you avoid misunderstandings and shenanigans. So, I emailed a new request (this time on a 330i), and set forth the base invoice price of the car I wanted, plus the invoice price of the few options I wanted, plus destination charge, plus dealer profit. My email said that the total was the amount I wanted to pay.
 
The invoice price, with options, came to $35,820, plus $695 destination, plus $750 dealer profit, as that amount seems fair to the dealer and still a good deal for me.
 
He emailed back saying that my numbers were "missing the $330 maco fee - the manufacturer's advertising cost."
 
Isn't that already part of the invoice price they're paying the manufacturer for the car? Or do they really pay that as extra? If so, isn't that really just an overhead of doing business, like paying the lease and heating the dealership facility, paying office staff,
etc.?
 
Even with the extra $330 (a total of $1,080 over invoice), I think it is still pretty good deal, but I wonder about the legitimacy of his claim. I sent the same email to about 6 dealers in my area, and his is the only response I've gotten so far.
 
Anyone have any insight on this?
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Re: DONT HATE ME!!!!..325 what should I pay!! [kyfdx] by salraf
Dec 11, 2005 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 11, 2005 4:46 am)

Hi kyfdx.
 
edmunds lists MSRP as $42,895 TMW $41,101..
 
I appreciate your help..
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bmw 325xi by bsloane
Dec 11, 2005 (2:02 pm)
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Am planning to buy 2006 BMW 325xi wagon w/premium pack, steptronic, park control etc. MSRP is $40,295. Local dealer wants $39,000. Does anyone know of better deals?
 
Thanks,
 
Burt
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Recent Pittsburgh Deal - TMV seems high by hate2haggle
Dec 12, 2005 (12:20 am)
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I hadn't bought a car in 9 yrs, so internet dealing was new to me, but dealing seemed the same. Using Edmunds detail report I estimated invoice costs as below:
 
BMW 2006 325xi base 30030
Steptronic 1210 Satellite Radio 540
Split fold down 430 Destination 695
Total invoice 32905, MSRP 35840 TMV 35045
My final price: 34,079.15 (1,174 over invoice, 1,760 under sticker)
 
I submitted requests to 4 dealers in Pittsburgh and only got one e-mail reply. The dealer did try to throw in 179 "dealer prep" and 265 "advertising" but this got negotiated out, as I didn't believe they were real. Seems from this forum I did OK, though not as well as some in NY/NJ. I was surprised to find that I was lower than TMV by almost 1000. Do you think TMV is a bit high, or maybe that the buyers on this forum are fairly savvy negotiators?
Gotta love that 15 cents. I guess that's supposed to make it look nonarbitrary.
 
Mike

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