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Re: Cheapest 2006 330i you've seen? [kyfdx] by rroyce10
Oct 27, 2005 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 27, 2005 6:12 am)

.... **Shopping with unrealistic expectations is extremely frustrating.. **
 
                           Bingo .............!
 
                              Thats why you see them still posting 8/9 months later ...
 
                                                                                      
 
                                                                                            Terry.
 
PS: plus, we never hear about that trade figure ...l.o.l......
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Re: Cheapest 2006 330i you've seen? [bdr127] by urnuts
Oct 27, 2005 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: bdr127 (Oct 27, 2005 5:17 am)

The allocation does make sense to me- sort of like hotel rooms; once the "night" is gone, and the room was empty, that opportunity is gone forever. So, why sell me a 330i & make $500 when you are pretty sure that you can sell the same car next week and make $2,000? Good point- and something only a dealer can answer. I was told by the salesman that all BMWs have a 7.8% markup- so on my 330i, w/ a MSRP of $41K (+/-), that would be $3198. Has anybody else been told this- the 7.8%? I was going to ask for somewhere between $1500 & 2000 off sticker-. With $1750 off sticker, that leaves a "profit" of $1448. Fair, I think. But again, not if you can nail someone for MSRP.
Pizza? Large Pepperoni costs me about $3 in food cost. Food cost is not the problem, or expense to worry about - it's $100,000/yr in worker's comp!
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Re: Discount Experience in Bucks County, PA area on 330i w/ZPP, ZSP, Nav [ckm1515] by silver17
Oct 27, 2005 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: ckm1515 (Oct 26, 2005 12:10 pm)

Hey ckm1515:
 
What dealership was that at? I got a quote from a PA dealer on a fairly loaded 330i for ~$2100 under sticker at the buy rate and correct residual. For 10k/36mth lease (I don't use a lot of miles) the pymt is just under $600 --PA tax included, no money down. Don't think I'll do any better, but you never know.
 
Silver
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Re: Discount Experience in Bucks County, PA area on 330i w/ZPP, ZSP, Nav [silver17] by ckm1515
Oct 27, 2005 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: silver17 (Oct 27, 2005 2:17 pm)

Ordered the vehicle from the Hunterdon dealership located in Lebanon, NJ - right on border of NJ/PA.
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Re: Cheapest 2006 330i you've seen? [urnuts] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 27, 2005 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: urnuts (Oct 27, 2005 12:03 pm)

I don't think the 7.8% is a very good rule of thumb... Just for example, the difference between the base MSRP and invoice price of the 330i is around 9.1%....
 
Even at $41K MSRP, it is somewhere between 9%-9.2%...
 
I don't know if this is representative across all models... but, if you are going to use a rule of thumb, 9% will be a lot closer...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Cheapest 2006 330i you've seen? [kyfdx] by urnuts
Oct 27, 2005 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 27, 2005 3:42 pm)

So, I guess I'm getting mislead from the get-go, huh? Salesman specifically said that ALL BMW models have a 7.8% mark-up. He seems like a nice guy, straight shooter, etc. 'Course, then he started w/ the whole "I work for you, not the dealership" thing, that's when I thought I might be in trouble.
If we go with your 9%, and I'm going to assume you REALLY work for me, so to speak, that's a profit of nearly $3700! I think $2K off is reasonable & fair- ordered or off the lot. Don't make me go into my pizza analogy again! Thanks- I'll post whether they yea, nay or counter.
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Need help on 330i lease by aussiem8
Oct 27, 2005 (7:55 pm)
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Decided on a 330i and will do a deal this weekend. Will lease for 36 months, 15k miles/yr, no down payment. I need to know what the money factor and residual % should be from BMW Financial Services. Also, assuming I get it for $41,500 (MSRP = $43,890; dealer invoice = $40,285) what would be the monthly pretax payment? What are considered reasonable amounts for acquisition fee, documentation fee, etc. Many thanks in advance. Going for Sonora with black interior. Saw one today for the first time and it is gorgeous.
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Re: Need help on 330i lease [aussiem8] by calif65gm
Oct 27, 2005 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: aussiem8 (Oct 27, 2005 7:55 pm)

Interesting, you're the first person that I've seen say the Sonora is gorgeous and going to buy a Sonora e90.
 
 
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Re: Cheapest 2006 330i you've seen? ... Urnuts ... by rroyce10
Oct 28, 2005 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: urnuts (Oct 27, 2005 4:06 pm)

... **Don't make me go into my pizza analogy again! .. **
 
               Best example in the world, so lets use it ......
 
                     $3.00 cost factor and you sell the cheapest one to the walk-in who's shopping the street for $8 bucks ..... if you drop your drawers and sell one for $8.00 you're making $170% -- if you sell one for $6.00 you still make 100% ...... and being a good business man, I bet you dollar cost average your sales out between the $14 and the $8.00 piazza's -- maybe brings you out to $11 a whack.? .... hmmm, not bad at a 250% ....
 
                      The question is .. how many piazza's could you sell and how long could you stay in business if you sold your piazza's for $3.50 .....? .. thats what $500 means to the Bimmer dealer ........
 
                     Workmans Comp..? .. dealers would Looooove to only pay $100,000 a year .. depending on the state, the county, number of employee's and the zipcode most dealers are paying $600,000++ ......
 
                                           
 
                                                           Will that be dine-in or carry out ..........?
 
                                                                                        
 
                                                                                         Terry
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Re: Cheapest 2006 330i you've seen? ... Urnuts ... [rroyce10] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 28, 2005 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: rroyce10 (Oct 28, 2005 5:49 am)

Didn't I say not to start talking about pizzas?
 
Well.. now that the cat is out of the bag...
 
It isn't a very good analogy... Most of the price of a pizza reflects labor costs... After you purchase the ingredients, you have to build the pizza..
 
Last time I checked... BMWs came fully assembled...
 
Pizza parlors... labor intensive...
 
Car dealers.. capital intensive..
 
regards,
kyfdx
No anchovies, please

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