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Replying to: spicy320 (Sep 07, 2005 8:38 pm) However it is not fair for them to "refer" you to one another. If they are interested in making a sale they should deal with you. Referring to one another is like dividing territory and a clear "anti-trust" violation. I have bought from both BMW MV and SCBMW. I do not think SCBMW is an AutoNation/AutoWest dealership; it is owned by Sonic Automotive. I personally feel that the $500 over invoice deal on the 2006 3 series is a too good ! What do you have as a trade in. You might want to try Carmax too. Only problem is that they are in Sacramento  If you need kyfdx: Your edmunds email address is bouncing emails from roadfly.org. I do understand that edmunds does not want salesmen to advertise through boards but deleting a post which suggests an off-line conversation.... 
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 08, 2005 9:22 am) Thanks again |
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Replying to: bmw0531 (Sep 08, 2005 9:12 am) As a general rule, 1. Spec out a brand new car at edmunds (add metallic paint,cold weather package, premium package, steptronic) as options. 2. Use midway between the MSRP and the invoice as the buy price. or the TMV 3. For year 1 subtract 20%. For year 2 subtract another 10%. Add a 10c/mile for milage above below 10K/year. This should be the high retail value for this car (around 30% less). My calculations suggest something in the mid20s, right where kyfdx feels it should be. |
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 08, 2005 9:22 am) A new 2006 325xi (which haven't even come out yet) similarly equipped would be $38,520. I don't know how much discount you could get on a pre-order. FYI: European delivery would be $1640 less. Taking into account that 20% & 10% depreciation, plus the low mileage, it looks like the car would be valued at about $29,500. Add the certification and some profit for the seller, and you are well into the $30k's. I'd say $29k+ is a decent price. My two cents. 
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Replying to: gaussd (Sep 07, 2005 11:13 am) 2006 BMW 325i ZPP Premium Package 609 i Drive/On-board Navigation System w/ Voice Recognition 205 STEPTRONIC 6-Speed Automatic Transmission 4AC Poplar Natural Wood Trim 693 Satellite Radio Preparation Sparkling graphite metallic exterior Black interior The invoice including destination fee was $34,630 from Edmunds.com at that time. I paid $35400.00 without tax and DMV fees. The deal is $500.00 above invoice, but the dealer insists $270.00 ad and training fee (MACO) as part of invoice. After negostiation, I got an all weather floor mate ($78.00). So I paid $692 above published invoice price at that time. I thought this was a good deal at that time. But recently, I checked the Edmunds.com again, it show $0 for paint color adjustment. At the time I bought my car it showed ~$450.00 for sparkling graphite metallic paint. I am not sure I got good deal any more. But on www.bmwusa.com, the paint price still is $475.00. Confused?
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Replying to: y_xie (Sep 08, 2005 12:13 pm) Strange... Edmunds doesn't show the metallic paint charge for any metallic paint on the 325i. The charge is definitely $475... Where did you see the $450? On the window sticker?
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Replying to: y_xie (Sep 08, 2005 12:13 pm) In fact, the invoice including destination fee of the car i wanted is $33,555, which includes: national base price 27,755 premium package 2,640 steptronic 6 speed 1210 adaptive Xenon headlight 730 heate front seats 455 satellite readio preparation 70 destination fee 695 ----------------------------------------------------- so the invoice price is 33,555 (it is an existing car with these options, so the base price is the old one before Sep 1). And the MSRP is $36,545. but the dealer only gave me $34845 as the final price, and he said no for any lower price. It is $1,290 above the invoice. I find that in this post, the price is always at most $1000 above the invoice, so maybe this dealer asked too much. Any advice or comments?
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Replying to: bdr127 (Sep 08, 2005 12:34 pm) |
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Replying to: bdr127 (Sep 08, 2005 12:07 pm) I am not sure how you came up with ED being $1640 less. The MSRP are about 7% less (~$2600), plus you *CAN* negotiate a better discount with ED if you go to the right dealer; the car is a bonus sale for them since it does not come out of their allocation. The ED invoice for this car is in the low 30s. Assuming a $1500 profit (very doable), this car should be easily available in the mid 30s. No way I would pay $29K for a car which is 3 model years old when I get a next gen car for 20-25% more.
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Replying to: bdr127 (Sep 08, 2005 12:34 pm) From a dealer, CPOed.... you are right... I would expect around $29K... but, not from a private seller, with no extra warranty...... In my experience, the AWDs aren't bringing any more used, than the RWD cars... BMW's own residuals seem to bear this out.. regards, kyfdx |
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