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BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Sedan, Wagon


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Re: how does this sound? [meangene3] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 10, 2005 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: meangene3 (Aug 09, 2005 6:34 pm)

Using the base rates, and with the acquisition fee rolled into the payment, I get $538/mo. plus tax... Don't know your tax rate, but that seems awfully close.
 
So.. it looks like $2200 off MSRP and all the base rates...
 
It looks like you've done very well...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Vicarious liability - what's the story now?? [kyfdx] by timny
Aug 10, 2005 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 10, 2005 7:12 am)

Hmm. You're right. Sitting with sales agents and watching them punch numbers into a spreadsheet that doesn't add up to the total they are quoting me (Acura, not BMW) has left me wary, perhaps overly so.
 
On the matter of the bank/acquisition fee, however it would be in the best interest of the institutions involved to be proactive in reforming their fee structure in light of the changes in liability law, retroactive to the date the law came (or comes) into effect. Continuing to charge an inflated acquisition fee on the basis of offsetting a liability that no longer exists could well leave the same institutions exposed to class actions.
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Re: Vicarious liability - what's the story now?? [timny] by davidd3
Aug 10, 2005 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: timny (Aug 10, 2005 11:09 am)

Let's hope that BMWFS get their act together on this and do the right thing by their customers in NY. Otherwise, you and I could be the class representatives in the class action. Maybe they would settle the case by giving everyone free mats!
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Re: Anyone??? [davidd3] by adp3
Aug 10, 2005 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: davidd3 (Aug 09, 2005 6:57 am)

David: All-season tires are not snow tires. When they say "all-seaoin" I think they mean all seasons in Los Angeles.
 
I don't think you need to go to "deadicated" snowies for the winter. The Nokian is an "all-season" that is also rated with the mountain/snowflake symbol - with that symbol I can get over Donner Pass (the Sierra) without snow chains when they have chain control in effect (Oh, and I have AWD, of course - I'd need chains if I only had FWD)
 
A "deadicated" snow tire will be lousy, noisy, harsh when you are back in the flatland, whereas an all-season with mountain/snowflake will be reasonable even when conditions are dry.
 
Of course, if you live wayyyy upstate, maybe you don't get many clear roads from December through March
 
I purchased my Nokians from someone other than Tire Rack, but they made me an equally good deal. I've used Tire Rack and they were fune, but they weren't carrying the Nokians.
 
http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/index.html
 
Also, there is good info in these forums about snow and ice tires:
 
kjemison, "Snow/Ice winter tires" #404, 3 Mar 2005 4:47 pm
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Online VS Dealer by mcmuney
Aug 10, 2005 (3:45 pm)
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Why is it that there's a big difference between lease estimates offered by dealers vs online calculators?
 
I've been in contact with multiple dealers regarding a lease of a 2003 330i and most of them seem to be in line; however, using the same figures, online calculators show the monthly payment to be lower by $100 in most cases.
 
Do dealers including hidden costs or are the online calculators missing something? Anyone know of a realistic online calculator that I can use?
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Re: Online VS Dealer [mcmuney] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 10, 2005 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: mcmuney (Aug 10, 2005 3:45 pm)

On-line calculators miss a lot... Sometimes they make assumptions that aren't accurate...
 
I use a simple Excel spreadsheet to figure leases...
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Re: Vicarious liability - what's the story now?? [davidd3] by timny
Aug 10, 2005 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: davidd3 (Aug 10, 2005 11:36 am)

Let them have mats! That's how the French revolution began!
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Re: Online VS Dealer [mcmuney] by timny
Aug 10, 2005 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: mcmuney (Aug 10, 2005 3:45 pm)

Here's a good lease caluclator: http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm
 
It produced the exact same results as the dealer.
 
If you are paying the taxes up-front, just include that figure in the "Costs Added to Lease" column, then put in a figure of 0% in the state taxes area.
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carsdirect by etj
Aug 11, 2005 (9:58 am)
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I wanted to see if anyone has had good or bad experiences with carsdirect. I am torn between carsdirect who offers a higher residual (0.63 vs. 0.61 from dealer) and a lower money factor (0.0026 vs. 0.0029 from dealer) but a higher sales price of the car (2000 over invoice vs 1000 from dealer).
 
This is for a 2006 325i Premium, Sport, Nav, Automatic, Xenon, lease for 36 months and 15K miles/year.
 
Maybe I am completely off and should negotiate more from the dealer? The four dealers I have dealt with in the San Diego area have all held steady on the numbers.
 
I would appreciate any comments.
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Re: Online VS Dealer [timny] by mcmuney
Aug 11, 2005 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: timny (Aug 10, 2005 5:01 pm)

I've used the leaseguide calculator and that's where I'm seeing a $100 difference between it's calculated payment vs dealer.

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