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BMW 3 Series, Sedan, Wagon
#4347 of 11920 Objective decision
Jun 23, 2005 (7:26 pm)
Hi people. I've been reading these threads for a while and decided to weigh in with a question:
I drive 20k miles a year in Northern California and want a 3-series sedan with a manual transmission. Which makes more economic sense when considering resale three or four years down the road...a new 325 w/premium and sport at (U tell me a good price number---15-hundred over?)
Or a late model 325 or 330. I see the market flooded with '04 325's and am astounded at the prices. Dealers want as much as $5k over wholesale on '02's, '03's, '04's (based on Manheim figures).
What is the wiggle room and your advice, based on experience? Which car will cost me less in the long term? Should I wait a few months, expecting the 3-series to weaken, once the novelty wears off and Lexus introduces its new IS-300?
And why, for cryin' out loud, do BMW salesmen act as if they're selling one-of-a-kinds, instead of cars.
I purchased my first 3- series at 200 over in 1992, and am spoiled.
#4348 of 11920 x drive on the 330.......
Jun 24, 2005 (2:35 pm)
The new x-drive technology will allow the 3 to be 100% RWD on dry pavement. This car will handle amazingly well and will have a clear safety and performance benefit over it's RWD version. The base price will be $1900 more. That will be the car to have......
BMW's ARE one-of-a-kind in the industry and the company wants it to be an experience that amounts to more than just pulling out an invoice and going back and forth a few times when you buy one. Hopefully, you've got a savvy, experienced client advisor to provide a professional, maybe even enjoyable, experience. Other brands do the same thing. Ever been to the Palms Hotel in Las Vegas.....they are just rooms, right?
#4349 of 11920 Re: this is crazy........ [wco81]
Jun 24, 2005 (3:20 pm)
I'll tell you that in addition to driving a BMW which I love for the driving dynamics and technolgy and understated good looks, I also drive a Mustang convertible strictly for it's good looks. That car is not as comfortable, and nowhere near the handling of my BMW -- but the image is pure icon -- as American as ice cold lemonade on the 4th of July. To say looks don't matter might sound nice when being set up on a blind date -- but I really don't think it holds true when buing a car -- unless one is buying a Priius -- which is not an attractive car per se, but still represents an image of caring about the enviorment. Writing this from LA wgere you are what you drive -- deal with it.
#4350 of 11920 Re: this is crazy........ [tootsie1]
Jun 24, 2005 (6:35 pm)
I also drive a Mustang convertible strictly for it's good looks. That car is not as comfortable, and nowhere near the handling of my BMW -- but the image is pure icon -- as American as ice cold lemonade on the 4th of July. To say looks don't matter might sound nice when being set up on a blind date -- but I really don't think it holds true when buing a car
That's a gross generalization. To you looks matter. Why is it you guys all assign your notions to everybody else? I can't conceive of buying a car I found attractive but that didn't drive the way i wanted. The new mustang is sexy, brutish and with the right accessories looks like something out of The Road Warrior. but it's got a solid axle, an inefficient V8 and a Ford interior...not worth it in my opinion.
Writing this from LA wgere you are what you drive -- deal with it.
yeah, san diego is the same way. thus the reason we have so many bmws and so many bmw owners who can't tell a 325 from an M5.
#4351 of 11920 LEASE: what should I be paying?
Jun 26, 2005 (7:38 pm)
2006 BMW 325i auto trans, nothing else
Price is $32000, looking for a 36 or 39 month lease, 10k or 12k miles per year
0 down, what should I expect to pay monthly (excluding tax) on a good deal?
#4352 of 11920 Re: x drive on the 330....... [virtualbmw]
Jun 27, 2005 (6:59 am)
Question regarding the comment that x-drive allocates 100% to RWD on dry pavement.
Is this confirmed? Is this new compared to the current x-drives on the X-3 and X-5?
I ask because in the current X-3 and X-5, the x-drive allocates 62% to RWD and 38% to FWD. This is straight out of the technical brochures as well as the BMW website.
Regardless, I plan on getting a 330xi at the end of the year. I know many comment that one should simply get a RWD and plan on using snow tires, but I live in western Michigan, and we get enough snow during the winter to justify owning an AWD vehicle.
#4353 of 11920 Can I haggle this advertised price?
Jun 27, 2005 (11:29 am)
I am in South Florida (Miami) and am looking to LEASE either a BMW 325i or 525i. These are the advertised prices that were listed in the Saturday newspaper. Has anyone purchased these models and received a better Lease option? I really want to know how much haggling room do you have from a newspaper advertised price?
24 months $2500 down plus tax, tag & first payment
$399 month lease
24 month lease $3999 down plus tax, tag & first payment
auto, CD player, power package
$489 month lease
Jun 27, 2005 (7:02 pm)
Of course. and for the love of all that's good...don't put 4k down on a lease!!!
#4355 of 11920 Re: x drive on the 330....... [kazoost]
Jun 28, 2005 (2:56 pm)
X-drive allows power to be distributed variably according to driving situations and will allow the vehicle to operate at 100% RWD.
The previous system had a fixed distribution of power between the front and rear axle.
#4356 of 11920 down payment on the lease........
Jun 28, 2005 (2:59 pm)
It's easy to make some generalizations about whether a down payment on a lease is a good idea. But, I'm sitting here doing BMW leases everyday and some clients are just more comfortable with a certain monthly payment and don't mind putting down some money to get that payment.