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BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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New car - engine break in? by jazevedo
Jul 20, 2004 (1:46 pm)
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I've never bought new before...anyone know what BMW recommends for the engine break in? I've heard that you shouldn't keep the car at the same RPM for a long time? Is that right? Or do you only need to keep the rpm's under a certain number like 4K? I was considering buying from a dealer in socal, but I live in bay area...but if I had to vary the rpm's the long drive back would be annoying.
 
Also, I'm looking at a 330 w/ performance package - without ordering the car from the factory, I guess there is no way to demand a car that was never test driven - I hate to think of people red-lining the car during a test drive to test the power, especially since that is during the break-in period! Is this something I should be worried about? When I test drove the dealer didn't come with me and he didn't even tell me to keep the revs down - it had 150 miles on it.
 
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Seeking help with 325i lease offer by vangooch
Jul 20, 2004 (1:55 pm)
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I'm looking to lease a 2004 325i with an MSRP of $30,300 (invoice of $28,000 incl. destination). Is the $1,200 manufacturer-to-dealer cash incentive (thru Aug. 31st) a *lease* incentive or a *buy-only* incentive, or both ?
 
Also, given that it's late in the model year, what amount should I set for dealer profit in calculating my offer ($28,000 less $1,200 dealer incentive plus dealer profit addback ranging from from $ ___ (initial offer) to $ ___ (final, take-it-or-leave it offer) ?).
 
Any dealers in the Southern California area that come highly recommended ?
 
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van
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by kyfdx HOST
Jul 21, 2004 (6:05 am)
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The incentive is valid for lease or buy deals. Most good deals would be for $500-$1500 over invoice minus incentive.
 
I'd look around first, though.. stripper models are hard to find.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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vangooch and jaz by blueguydotcom
Jul 21, 2004 (7:16 am)
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If you're willing to go to San Diego, Cunningham does $400 over invoice - incentive on 3 series cars with a Costco card.
 
Jaz,
 
anyone know what BMW recommends for the engine break in? I've heard that you shouldn't keep the car at the same RPM for a long time? Is that right? Or do you only need to keep the rpm's under a certain number like 4K? I was considering buying from a dealer in socal, but I live in bay area...but if I had to vary the rpm's the long drive back would be annoying.
 
The manual suggests not breaking 4k, which is easy with a 6 speed and to very it some. That means don't do 75 on the button for 1 hour. Go to 80, then 75, then 77, 85, etc.
 
Also, I'm looking at a 330 w/ performance package - without ordering the car from the factory, I guess there is no way to demand a car that was never test driven - I hate to think of people red-lining the car during a test drive to test the power, especially since that is during the break-in period! Is this something I should be worried about? When I test drove the dealer didn't come with me and he didn't even tell me to keep the revs down - it had 150 miles on it.
 
150 miles on a new car :O Seems really high. Some are cool with that. Every new car I've purchased had fewer than 6 miles on it. to each his own.
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by kyfdx HOST
Jul 21, 2004 (7:25 am)
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When the car comes off the assembly line, as soon as the last piece of trim is snapped in place, they drive it right onto a dyno machine and test it.. Right up to 140KM/HR. No, they don't redline it, but the car comes right out of the box ready to go.. I would rather have a car that only has six miles on it, but I don't think I would be overly worried about 150 miles.
 
But, there should be plenty of new cars on the lot that haven't been driven.. They usually put the cars in a demo program for that purpose.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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responses by jazevedo
Jul 21, 2004 (8:08 am)
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Thanks, yeah they were offering a better deal on the one with 150 miles on it..they probably had it for awhile. I wasn't planning on buying from them anyway, but I started thinking about it...and since I've never bought a new car before I wasn't sure what the norm was in terms of acceptable miles. Thanks for the responses.
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Re: New car - engine break in? [jazevedo] by alibajalajaula
Jul 21, 2004 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: jazevedo (Jul 20, 2004 1:46 pm)

Jaz- I also got a ZHP, mine had 4 miles. What I suggest instead of ordering from factory is checking with a friendly dealer to see if he's willing to make a swap with another dealer,or re-route your favorite combination directly from the boat (i.e. east coast) to them. The car will arrive in a closed carrier, with very low miles. As far as break in I followed the owner's manual, which I believe is not to exceed 4500 rpm in any gear for the first 1200 miles. Like Blue said, with this 6 gear you handle most posted speeds without red-lining it.
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Re: New car - engine break in? [alibajalajaula] by jazevedo
Jul 21, 2004 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: alibajalajaula (Jul 21, 2004 5:36 pm)

Cool, thanks. A dealer in socal is searching for me now so I'll be sure to ask about mileage when I hear back.
 
Any regrets on the color you chose? I saw you got imola....it's what I like the best, but I'm wondering if I'd get tired of it over time...
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Re: New car - engine break in? [jazevedo] by alibajalajaula
Jul 22, 2004 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: jazevedo (Jul 21, 2004 7:55 pm)

Imola it is: I like it, plus its a non-metallic color, so its about $495 (I guess)less than a metallic finish. Colors are a very subjective topic. You either love'em or hate'em, just like italian opera. I had never own a red sporty car like this one so that also influenced my decision. Imola is a tiny city in San Marino, Italy where the Italian Grand Prix F1 is raced every year. So in a way you can say the color has heritage.
Also, at the time you choose a color, IMHO the selection depends on your mood, or better said, state of mind. I mean psychologically speaking. I had an alpine white 325i, which at the time I bought it (2001) I was pretty much into a winter mood, I liked the black/white stark contrast combination and it looked neato. I loved that 5 speed manual, but then when I saw the 6-ZHP I wanted something fiery, ferocious, and well you now know the rest of the story.. no regrets...
BTW, if you have already owned red car, get whatever makes you happy above all..
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Alcantara Interior/Rear Deck (Lip) Spoiler by confused2
Jul 22, 2004 (2:14 pm)
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I've been looking for immediate delivery of Silver/Grey 330 convertible w/ZHP and Xenons. Finally found one locally, but only potential problem is that it has Alcantara interior, which salesperson described as a suede-like fabric. My first reactionwas that it would stay cooler than leather, but am now wondering whether it looks cheap on 50K+ car. Any one out there like it and why (Car has not been delivered so I have not seen.) Also wondering whether convertible ZHP comes with the M-type lip/rear deck spoiler - dealer is supposed to check but hasn't gotten back to me.

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