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10325 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 12:50 PM
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"Oh, and for those that say WHY this mid-40's guy delayed his car purchase so long, my "day job" F18 out accelerates (on a catapult, anyway), out turns, out stops (with arresting gear), and out runs an F1 car." Yes, but does it get better gas mileage?
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 25, 2004 8:17 am) |
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jun 28, 2004 8:49 am) Hornet at max range is roughly 1 mile per 1.5 gallons, which is a little worse than an F1 car at WOT. In full blower on the deck, the entire field of 20 cars doesn't use as much fuel as an FA-18 to go a mile (in 5 seconds, though). Strike fighter pilots sweat fuel way more than race car drivers. A full load of fuel can last 10 minutes / or 2 hours. Jim |
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I'm looking at an 330ix with a MSRP of $45,370 (invoice $41,560). What price should I be shooting for with the dealer?
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Replying to: seabush (Jun 28, 2004 5:40 pm) A good deal would be from $1000 to $1500 under invoice, although you might want to make your first offer under that. $40,000 would be about $840 over dealer cost... You might want to start at $39,500. I'm not sure where you are from, or what the market is like in your area. Be advised, some dealers aren't really keen on making great deals.. Great deals are around, but not every dealer will make you one. My local dealer would eat a car, before taking a $1K profit deal... regards, kyfdx
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..... ** Don't worry about resale ** ... If the new owner is too tall, or hopefully they know they will have the vehicle for the next 5/6/7+ years and will roll-up some real tall miles, then a slider and an automatic might not make up much difference ... so your salesperson wasn't being an "idiot", he was just being honest and reflecting the "real deal" market. But the market is changing fast and most folks are trading their vehicles (or at least trying to .l.o.l.) in 30 months or less and a sport model without a hole in the roof can be a crusher by $2,0/$3,000, pull the auto out and it gets ugly after that, it will diminish the "buying" market by 80%+ .. Real enthusiast buyers love to look and feel, but are slow when it comes to the "Hip National Bank", real slow, plus they are only a very small part of the market .... the nice thing about having ALL the toys is, it takes some of the pain away when you have a handshaker and you go to sell it in the short term years ....................  Terry. |
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so your salesperson wasn't being an "idiot", he was just being honest and reflecting the "real deal" market. If a man says he wants a ham sandwich with rye and swiss, don't tell him to get bologna instead. Good salespeople listen to what the person wants. 95% of the salespeople working dealerships push what they want you to buy. Automatics, all the trimmings, whatever is on the lot. You don't buy a sports sedan to please the next buyer if that means it will detract from all measure of enjoyment of that vehicle. Why buy a 330i if the driving experience is miserable? That's the height of idiocy. you might as well buy an accord in that case. by $2,0/$3,000, pull the auto out and it gets ugly after that, it will diminish the "buying" market by 80%+ .. So again, sacrifice your pleasure for 30 months? the nice thing about having ALL the toys is, it takes some of the pain away when you have a handshaker and you go to sell it in the short term years .................... The bad part being you've got a vehicle that's uncomfortable (in the case of our tall friend) or just not terribly much fun to drive (my view of automatics). |
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** If a man says he wants a ham sandwich with rye and Swiss, don't tell him to get bologna instead ** Good point - but, if the ham sandwich with rye and Swiss has been just sitting around the restaurant for 2/3 days and the buyer wasn't notified, then let him get sick ..? ** You don't buy a sports sedan to please the next buyer if that means it will detract from all measure of enjoyment of that vehicle. Why buy a 330i if the driving experience is miserable? That's the height of idiocy ** This is not a "you" thing, this a "market" thing .. if you are aware of all the facts "upfront" then it makes little or no difference on what *you* purchase, but most folks don't .. I have bought and sold plenty of "3's" and bunches of 330's, most buyers could care less if it's a 325 or a 330 -If- it's properly optioned, because then it becomes price and price becomes payments .. and yes, once in a blue moon you will find someone that will purchase a base 2dr 325 with cloth, or no roof or both with a meat clever, but these are also the same folks that wonder why their resale value is tubed at trade time, but if they are aware upfront, then it makes no difference ... For the real "enthusiast" it will make little difference if it's green with a blue interior, as long as they can get the feel of the road and a few speeding tickets .l.o.l... Remember this is a market thing, not a You thing .. Terry. |
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