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#11707 of 11917 2012 335i what to pay
by csnyder335i
Sep 08, 2012 (10:12 pm)
Im looking at a 2012 335i with the below options. Can someone help me with what I should offer on this car. My current lease is up and I'm looking to go with another 335.
36 Months 12k Lease
MSRP $54820
Money factor .00185
Doc fee $900
Residual 61%
Using $750 loyalty and $300 Drive App
VEHICLE PACKAGES & ACCESSORIES
Parking Pkg -Inc: Rear-View Camera, Front/rear Park Distance Control, Side & Top View Cameras (req: Zpp Premium Pkg)
Premium Pkg -Inc: Dakota Leather Seat Trim, Universal Garage Door Opener, Comfort Access Keyless Entry, Auto-Dimming Exterior Mirrors
Sport Line -Inc: Sports Leather Steering Wheel, 18" X 8.0" Double-Spoke Light Alloy Wheels (style 397) W/p225/45r18 Run-Flat Performance Tires, Black Exterior Mirror Caps, Sport Seats, High Gloss Black Interior Trim, Coral Red Matte Highlight Trim Finishe
Technology Pkg -Inc: Navigation System, Head-Up Display, Extended Content Instrument Cluster, Real Time Traffic Information
8-Speed Sport Automatic Transmission -Inc: Driving Dynamics Control, Automatic Sport And Manual Shift Modes, Steering Wheel-Mounted Paddle Shifters (req: Zsl Sport Line)
Split Fold-Down Rear Seat
Heated Front Seats
Bmw Assist W/enhanced Bluetooth & Usb -Inc: Online Info Services
Bmw Apps -Inc: Smartphone Integration (req: 6nl Bmw Apps & Ztp Technology Pkg)
I don't see any additional Incentives on 335i at the moment. Any help would be great. Thanks!
#11708 of 11917 Re: 2012 335i what to pay [csnyder335i]
by stone19
Sep 09, 2012 (4:39 am)
Invoice price is about 8% off the MSRP, you should be able to get somewhere around 7% off and then apply your loyalty discount, don't believe there are any other incentives right now.
Your money factor is being marked up - std money factor is .00145. Also you should look into doing Multiple Security Deposit if you can, google it to educate your self, you can put down add'l refundable deposits to lower the money factor, doing the math you basically earn 10-12% on your money by saving 40-50 per month on lease payment.
Also, you say Doc Fee of $900, I assume you mean bank fee, std bank fee is $725, so they are also marking that up and you should be able to negotiate that down.
Good luck
#11709 of 11917 Re: 2012 335i what to pay [stone19]
by stone19
Sep 09, 2012 (4:40 am)
I missed the fact that you are looking at an 2012, you should be able to go below invoice in that case since it is a leftover, I was thinking you were looking at a 2013.
#11710 of 11917 Re: Picking up F30 tonight... [flightnurse]
by todd_gaines
Sep 10, 2012 (11:30 am)
BMW didn't install my BT at the factory. I was already getting the car for $500 over invoice. In light of the problem BMW dropped the price of the car $750. Not satisfied (such a small discount for a lease), I had them tear off another $1250 from the CAP Cost. Added in the BMW Team USA voucher giving me a cap cost of 38k. Then I did the 7 MSDs: $2800 (which will come back at the end). 12k mile lease ended up at $399 a month including taxes.
#11712 of 11917 Re: 2012 335i what to pay [stone19]
by csnyder335i
Sep 10, 2012 (1:35 pm)
Thanks, yes its a 2012, they are not giving much on the price but there are only 3 dealers in the Phxoenix area and two are owned by the same company. Yes I meant "bank fee" which should be 725 however they are charging more and are upping the rate. Are these negotiable? I have leased before and was not sucessful in getting the rate back down to the base or the doc fee. the .00185 works out to 1400 in profit for them over the 36 months. Im now thinking about ordering one to get exactly what I want as there are no 335i in stock yet.
#11713 of 11917 Re: 2012 335i what to pay [csnyder335i]
by todd_gaines
Sep 10, 2012 (1:50 pm)
You can do better. The lease fee is negotiable (most reputable dealers will not mark it up).
You may want to check bimmerfest.com as there are board sponsors on there who will easily do $400-500 over invoice on the 335i. They'll go lower on the 328i as the sales are rather soft...
#11714 of 11917 Re: 2012 335i what to pay [csnyder335i]
by flightnurse
Sep 10, 2012 (6:23 pm)
My last two BMWs where bought at Chapman BMW on Camelback, never had a problem always dealt with the internet manager (he just left) but got the deal I wanted. I would stay away from North Scottsdale BMW at all cost...
#11715 of 11917 Re: 2012 335i what to pay [flightnurse]
by csnyder335i
Sep 10, 2012 (7:17 pm)
I am going to order a 2013 instead and am talking to Camelback right now. Never ordered a car before and not sure how the process works and how to negotiate the deal. Any advice?
. There are a few that are about to go into production and can still be modified.
#11716 of 11917 Re: 2012 335i what to pay [csnyder335i]
by todd_gaines
Sep 10, 2012 (8:11 pm)
Go on bmwconfig.com, build the car. Then contact the internet department via email with an exact breakdown of the car you want, invoice price and what you will pay over invoice. Pretty easy. Good dealers will take the offer as it's easy money for them. Bad dealers will play games and ask you to call or say they might have something.