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BMW 3 Series, Sedan, Wagon
#11297 of 12231 335xi or a4 3.2L
Feb 18, 2011 (7:27 pm)
I've been looking to but a new used car and trade in my 2000 Audi A4 2.8 quattro. Narrowed it down to two choices: a 2009 Audi A4 3.2L quattro Premuim Plus with 19K miles, original warranty good until August 2013, can be had for $25K with my trade. Impressed with the ride, braking and acceleration, and lots of room all around. The other is a 2007 BMW 335xi with 15K miles, cold weather and premium packages, price with trade is $24,500, CPO until Nov 2013, very impressed with how this car handles and the engine is a beast. Love to hear opinions on what car you would buy. I'm leaning toward the BMW since I've had Audi's for a long time and would be a nice change, plus feel the value on the BMW is excellent. Thanks
Feb 21, 2011 (10:06 pm)
2011 328i with premium pkg and heated seats
Best offer so far is $39,8xx, OTD
Sounds like a deal?
#11299 of 12231 08 335i convertible for $36k, a good price?
Feb 23, 2011 (12:25 pm)
Getting a 2008 335i convertible with 30K miles (Sports, Premium, Cold Wthr, Nav, Auto with Steering mounted shifters, USB & Wind Deflector) for $36K + TTL, good price? Thanks
#11300 of 12231 Trading Up...one CPO for another
Feb 26, 2011 (8:17 am)
All - first time post but long time follower.
In Oct. '08 I bought a 2005 325xi with 40k miles for $22k. Got the extended maint warranty which was awesome (numerous oil changes, wipers, new brakes, roters, oil sensor, thermostat etc. were done).
Fast forward to Feb. 2011 and the car now has 73k miles and the extended warranty is up. I pay about $350/mo with about $10k left on the loan.
With that, I'm thinking for trading this car in for an '08 328 (i or xi). Hoping to keep the payments the same.
Haven't walked into a dealer yet to discuss but I feel like I'll have two sets of negotiations...what can I buy a pre-owned for and what will I get for my old car.
Do you like where my head is? Should I be going about this another way? Any research I should be doing?
Any thoughts, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!!
Feb 27, 2011 (12:30 pm)
Are the build your own BMW & Estimate lease payments accurate on bmwusa.com?
#11302 of 12231 Re: BMWUSA.com [stunyccpa]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Feb 27, 2011 (1:07 pm)
The build-your-own MSRP is accurate.. but, the lease figures generally aren't....
They use the standard lease rates, that may, or may not be applicable to that model... You can usually negotiate a better deal than what you come with on the website..
#11303 of 12231 Hard Top convertilbe Vs Coupe
Feb 27, 2011 (1:48 pm)
Hard top convertibles are rare to see compare to coupe, is there any particular reason like more expensive or less reliable top etc or safety issues?
#11304 of 12231 Should I buy this 2009 335i Convertible
Feb 27, 2011 (8:08 pm)
Folks I have been long time member and have benefited from the esteemed knowledge of the folks on these forums and am again looking forward to your assistance. I have been looking at 3 series convertibles for a long time and off late have found some cars that have really interested me. Here is another one that I recently found:
Found a 335i convertible from one of the small dealers who essentially buy cars from auction to be resold or exported. This car was a lease return sold at auction. Has 31000miles and asking price is 37K, has Nav, Premium, Sport, Cold Weather, Keyless, 19" wheels (which I don't want because of the rough ride, but easy enough to change). I looked at Carfax, the title is clean and it is not a salvage but following issues are concerning,
*Rear Brake Pads replaced at 12K miles
*Checked for engine oil leak at 21K miles
*Parts Ordered? Engine oil and filter changed, chassis lubricated at 24K miles
*Front & Rear brakes and rotors changed at 25K miles
*Sold at auction 31K miles
Seems like the car was driven hard, looking at the services performed, but it is priced lower than 2008s from "reputable" dealers. What do you folks suggest? Should I take the risk? May be able to bring the price down by another 1k or more.
So I checked out the car and test drove it. Drives really nice, smooth, engine sounds good, no cowl shake but that may be because of the adaptive steering, essentially numbing the feel.
Based on the brakes being changed I am guessing this car has been tracked, or in the least driven hard. How well does the E93 hold up to tracking? How well does the entire E9x platform hold up to tracking.
The interior has gone through some abuse, looks like a 5+yr old car's and not a 2yr old car. There are some scuff marks, and the leather is a bit dirty but that can be cleaned.
The tread on the Yokohamas is almost gone, maybe 5k more miles left.
The oil leak makes me think that maybe a rock or something hit the oil pan, I will get the car inspected, especially the undercarriage.
The guy is willing to deal, can possibly get the car for 35.5K which is a great price for an 09 'vert. The car will definitely need a little bit of work but the good thing is that it has almost 2yrs of factory warranty left.
Folks need your assistance in deciding whether I should even take the risk of going for this car or not?[/B]
#11305 of 12231 Re: Should I buy this 2009 335i Convertible [bond007jb]
Mar 01, 2011 (8:42 am)
I'd pass; the brakes should last upwards of 50,000 miles. The oil should have been changed at 15,000 miles. And I seriously doubt that the car was tracked -at a BMW CCA HPDE at least- as CCA requires that droptops have a permanently attached hardtop AND a roll bar.
The condition of the interior also speaks volumes; a car with a pristine interior and immaculate bodywork may have neglected mechanicals, but if the car's overall appearance is shabby I can almost guarantee that the hard parts have been given short shrift. If you really like the car, I'd still want to have it inspected by a good BMW tech. The Carfax may well be wrong- it happens more often than you think.
#11306 of 12231 Re: Should I buy this 2009 335i Convertible [bond007jb]
Mar 01, 2011 (12:11 pm)
I'm going along with Roadburner in his analysis.
BMW's are not cheap cars to maintain, and if you take ownership (even at what seems to be a good price today) of one that has been "raw-hided", I can almost guarantee you will rue the day you signed the paperwork.
The brake changes by themselves indicate severe treatment, and if you add in the poor interior quality...
Also, the length of the first oil change would be a "kicker" for me. Youy're not likely to see the results of minimal oil changes during the first 50K miles, but at some point, you WILL see them.
I suspect this car may well have been leased, and whoever had it got as much "goody" out of it as possible... then, let it get reclaimed by the take-back man.
Let's just say I would probably pass. There are better cars waiting to be picked up.