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#10282 of 10297 Negotiating on 328xi by hollandog Nov 10, 2009 (7:36 pm)
I was negotiating a 2010 fully loaded 328xi with a bunch of dealers. One of my local dealers agreed to my invoice + $300 offer not including the $1500 rebate over the email.   When I got to the dealership the dealer added a few hidden charges to the cap cost. Which includes   -$180 Training Fee (WTF?) -$300 Marketing + Advertisement Fee (seriously?) -$600 Labor charges (car wash labor, transportation labor..etc, right.)   The dealer said BMW bills them for these charges and they are internal fees that don't show up on the internet invoices. Can I call that BS?   The MSRP is $42990 and supposed with an invoice of $39595. He gave me $40975 as "their" invoice + $300.   I gave time for him to explain the hidden fees then I walked away.   He also told me that New York has a cap of $745 for max MSD. So you basically can't put 7 MSD to reduce the MF in New York according to him. Is it true?
#10283 of 10297 2009 328i sedan price in So Cal? by howiefromsocal Nov 10, 2009 (7:42 pm)
Hi. I am looking at an '09 328i sedan with automatic, premium pkg, heated seats and ipod/usb. MSRP is $40,000, invoice $36,865. Carsdirect can get me for $35,340 in so cal with 2.9% BMWFS financing. Is this a good deal? People seem to have been posting better deals in October?!? Where can I get a better deal? I went to one BMW dealer and told him I wanted below $35,340 and he told me to go with carsdirect. He said he wouldn't beat them on price. Any help appreciated. thanks! Replies to this message: mikerock (Nov 10, 2009 10:17 pm)
#10284 of 10297 Re: 2009 328i sedan price in So Cal? [howiefromsocal] by mikerock Nov 10, 2009 (10:17 pm)
Replying to: howiefromsocal (Nov 10, 2009 7:42 pm) Last month dealer has 3500+1260 to give, this month only 1500+1260.
#10285 of 10297 How is BMW servcie loaner car? by mikerock Nov 10, 2009 (10:19 pm)
Some dealer are trying to get me a 2009 328i with less than 10k miles on it. Anyone has experience with those cars, they do have maintenance and warranty for another three years though.
#10286 of 10297 Re: Negotiating on 335i [susanneh] by Firebird_EOU Nov 13, 2009 (2:18 pm)
Replying to: susanneh (Nov 10, 2009 6:35 pm) Try carsdirect dot com or Costco/BJ buying service. Or pay a male friend $100~$200 to get you a good deal via sending email quotes to multiple dealers to their Internet Sales Mgr, which would be $1,500 above invoice minus incentives. Replies to this message: susanneh (Nov 13, 2009 3:53 pm) sanfrannewbie (Nov 13, 2009 10:12 pm)
#10287 of 10297 Re: Negotiating on 335i [Firebird_EOU] by susanneh Nov 13, 2009 (3:53 pm)
Replying to: Firebird_EOU (Nov 13, 2009 2:18 pm) Thanks so much. I have successfully negotiated to a purchase at about $1500 over invoice, which seems to be fair. BTW, I don't think it'd have to be a MALE friend who could get quotes from internet sales managers, since they don't seem to be as biased (and sometimes can't even tell that the emailer is female) as the in-person sales force at auto dealers. I did, in fact, get quotes online (doing it myself, but I like your idea of getting help if time is short) and that is what aided my negotiation. I went in armed with the data (invoice v. MSRP, competitive quotes, etc.), and that's what got us to the point where I'd buy the car. I don't know to what extent my negotiation with the dealer was influenced by my gender, or how much of it is just the "you're lucky to even be in our dealership" attitude of a luxury car dealer. Replies to this message: sanfrannewbie (Nov 13, 2009 10:12 pm)
#10288 of 10297 Re: Negotiating on 335i [susanneh] by sanfrannewbie Nov 13, 2009 (10:12 pm)
Replying to: susanneh (Nov 13, 2009 3:53 pm) You should press for invoice, not a dollar more. I live in the Bay Area and took several days and e-mails but eventually got quotes for invoice -- plus floor mats thrown in -- when I ordered a 335 in late Sept. Be firm and ready to walk out/hang up/go elsewhere. We're still in a recession with 10% unemployment and $50,000 cars are simply not necessary, for Pete's sake. Good luck!
#10290 of 10297 Money Factor Confusion by bmwleaser1 Nov 23, 2009 (5:57 pm)
I am trying to understand the advertised lease for a 2010 BMW 328i X-Drive Sedan that is listed on BMW's website. It states that the lease is $369/mo (no tax or title) based on a MSRP of $39,650, $1500 cap reduction, $3500 down, and $24,583 residual. In trying to figure out what the money factor is to produce this deal, I come up with something between .0014 and .0015. Does that sound right, or am I missing something? I have tried to contact BMW finance to ask, but they will not tell me (stating that one must speak with a dealer).    Assuming my calculation is right, has anyone obtained this rate from a dealer? Replies to this message: hollandog (Nov 23, 2009 11:41 pm) bmwleaser1 (Nov 24, 2009 4:55 am) hollandog (Nov 24, 2009 8:18 am) and 1 more... kyfdx (Nov 24, 2009 3:57 am) bmwleaser1 (Nov 24, 2009 4:36 am)
#10291 of 10297 Re: Money Factor Confusion [bmwleaser1] by hollandog Nov 23, 2009 (11:41 pm)
Replying to: bmwleaser1 (Nov 23, 2009 5:57 pm) The MF should be 0.00240 for 36mos/15k miles for november Replies to this message: bmwleaser1 (Nov 24, 2009 4:55 am) hollandog (Nov 24, 2009 8:18 am) bmwleaser1 (Nov 24, 2009 8:34 am)

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