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#10238 of 12233 Re: What is total dealer incentives for an new 09? [elias]
Oct 19, 2009 (9:26 am)
It's probably unrealistic to expect to pay invoice for a BMW, as there are no dealer "holdbacks" or other back-end, unseen ways that the dealer may make a profit on a below-invoice sale. So if they sell for invoice, they make no profit. They'll make that up somehow (add points to the interest rate, undervalue your trade, all the usual methods.)
$500 over invoice is a very good deal, $1500 over invoice should be available from most dealers without too much haggling. As you add on the options, the spread between invoice and MSRP widens, and could approach $5000 at the high end (say, invoice of $50K, MSRP of $55K). So splitting the difference would have you overpaying by perhaps $2000. (Splitting the difference in the example I just gave would be $2500 over invoice, a deal ANY dealer would do.)
You can listen to the poster above and start at invoice. But just don't expect it as a realistic final outcome. Yes, $500 is $500, but at these prices we're talking about 1% of the cost of the car. It shouldn't make or break your ability to pay for the car. If you like the car, and it's optioned closely to how you would order a 2010, I wouldn't let it slip through my fingers on account of $500 in the final outcome. In other words, if the dealer agrees to $1K over invoice, then subtracts the incentive money, you'll be getting a very good deal. If you beat him/her down to $500 over invoice, and then subtract all the incentives, that's a great deal.
#10239 of 12233 Re: What is total dealer incentives for an new 09? [davidk12]
Oct 19, 2009 (5:31 pm)
I'm also interested in a 09 335(sedan). Was aware of the auto credit but thought the additional credit was $4,500 (per Edmunds) if you pay cash/don't finance with BMW FS. Where does the extra $840 come from to get to the $5,340?
ps any major diffs between the 335 sedan 09 v. 10 car or is the incentive just to compensate for having a car thats model yr is a yr older?
#10240 of 12233 2010 BMW 328i Sedan lease deal
Oct 19, 2009 (8:40 pm)
Hi Guys, is this a good deal:
2010 328i 4DR (MSRP $38950)
BMW Assist with Bluetooth
Selling price is $34500
$1500 Total Money due at signing.......$475.00 month including tax (7%)
Can I do better?
#10241 of 12233 Re: What is total dealer incentives for an new 09? [davidk12]
Oct 20, 2009 (10:31 am)
Car_Man/others help pls! For non BMW FS purchase is the incentive on a 09 335 sedan $5,340 or $6,340 plus the $1325 auto credit - ie is the total incentive $6,665 or $7,665?
#10242 of 12233 Re: What is total dealer incentives for an new 09? [auditt180]
Oct 20, 2009 (11:33 am)
Even I am interested in figuring this one out. I am looking to get a deal on the last few remaining 09 sedans in my area (northwest).
As per Edmunds it is 4500 + 1260 = 5760 for 335, and 3500 + 1260 = 4760 for 328. Where are you getting numbers close to 6-7K from?
And from what I understand, the 4500 credit is only if I choose to go with my own financing option. Is there any such restriction on free automatic?
#10243 of 12233 Re: What is total dealer incentives for an new 09? [crimemaster]
Oct 20, 2009 (6:35 pm)
I may have been mistaken in my original posting, it looks like from edmunds that it is 4500 + 1260 if you do not use their financing and select auto for the 335i. I would be probably doing my own financing through penfed, I think they still around 3.9%
Anyone in the know that can shed some light on it? I am about to put an offer for a fairly loaded 09 335i for invoice less $5760.
#10244 of 12233 328 XI below Invoice
Oct 21, 2009 (1:30 pm)
Edmunds TMV lists the National Base Price 2009 328XI as
$35.6 MSRP and
$32.7 Invoice (both of which agree with the price lists).
But then lists the negotiated base price as $30.4.
Are members getting 2009 base prices below invoice on a regular basis?
#10245 of 12233 Re: 328 XI below Invoice [banglenot]
Oct 21, 2009 (3:44 pm)
i purchased a 2009 328ix last week. my research had additional dealer incentive money as $5340 on this model till the end of oct. other posts above had slightly different numbers, but somewhere in this ball park. it is each individual dealer's option, whether they will pass this additional discount onto the the customer or not. i live in the northeast and i found that at lot of dealers in the central/northern nj area were discounting these cars at about $6500- $7500 off sticker. if you can find a 2009 left over model with colors and options that you like , see if you can make a similar deal. i paid $7100 off sticker for the car i just bought for my daughter.
#10246 of 12233 Re: 328 XI below Invoice [xraymanrr]
Oct 21, 2009 (4:01 pm)
Thanks. Can I ask how much above/below invoice price it was?
#10247 of 12233 Re: 328 XI below Invoice [banglenot]
Oct 21, 2009 (6:17 pm)
i paid $3750 below invoice.
more details above, in post 10223