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BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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335i coupe with 6 speed manual by rjg001
Jul 06, 2009 (11:07 am)
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I'm probably going to buy a 335i coupe with 6 speed manual. I'll get rear wheel drive - no x-drive.
 
What should I be targeting? I see people talking about getting under invoice, but is that with the credit for x-drive or steptronic? I'm going to buy to take advantage of the 1.9% unless I find out that July lease rates are really good. And I'll have to order the car to get what I want.
 
I had thought $500 over invoice was what people were approaching in general. Is there something I don't know about?
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Is it a mistake? by r34
Jul 06, 2009 (7:00 pm)
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I am looking at some 2007 335xi. I expected an anti-theft alarm system should be standard in these days. However, I couldn't find it mentioned anywhere. I found a basic $300+ alarm under the accessories section on the BMW website. Is it a joke?
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Re: 335i coupe with 6 speed manual [rjg001] by acuraprice
Jul 06, 2009 (8:34 pm)
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Replying to: rjg001 (Jul 06, 2009 11:07 am)

They will likely take the transmission money off of MSRP and just work you down from there.
 
I knew there was transmission money, etc, but it didn't really matter since I had him down to $46,395 to match another dealer, but he said the car he was competing against didn't have the alarm system which was an additional $400, so I told him $46,500 and that was my final offer. Deal got done.
 
I was told they needed $1,000 down as hold money to get the car and it could be fully refundable or applied to the deal at close. I didn't sign anything official, just a couple of dealer worksheet/scratch type papers of which he said were insignificant and I received no copies of (I should have known better). He said we will sign and close once the car arrives and is made ready. They had to trade for the car and it doesn't hit port until the 10th. Technically I could still get out and probably get the $1,000 back as well, but I think I'll be picking this car up. I feel like $46,500 on a $51,845 car is a better than average price.
 
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335i, jet black/saddle brown, premium, sport, nav, steptronic auto trans, sport wheel w paddles, anti theft, comfort access, heated front seats, satellite w 1 yr, HD radio, ipod & usb:
   
MSRP: $51,845
INVOICE: $47,705
SALES PRICE: $46,500
That's 10.3% off MSRP and $1,205 behind invoice.
Not a lease, outright purchase price includes everything but TT&L, can also use 1.9% simple interest financing.
  
Car is on the water (in transit from Germany) as we speak. Throwing in floor mats, and it drives out with a complete detail (3 coats of wax) and full tank of gas. What do you think?
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Re: Is it a mistake? [r34] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 07, 2009 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: r34 (Jul 06, 2009 7:00 pm)

Alarms have never been standard on a 3-series.. Still aren't...
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2009 BMW 335 xi LEASE HELP by ltyenta
Jul 09, 2009 (11:51 am)
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I recently ordered a new 2009 BMW 335xi. I was locked into the June rates which have changed for July. My money factor is lower and already had to haggle numerous times with the dealer over the first payment that they gave me so are looking for some help here.
The first payment they have given me was without the $1000 rebate since my car would not be here until mid August and it's back so I'm unsure how it's applied.
 
36,000 mile lease
MSRP 55,820
Residual 59%
MF = .00165
Sales price $52,995
Sales tax 9% (PA)
Rebate $1000.00
The payment I came up with is $709.80
 
Can someone help???
Thanks
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Re: 2009 BMW 335 xi LEASE HELP [ltyenta] by acuraprice
Jul 09, 2009 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: ltyenta (Jul 09, 2009 11:51 am)

Don't know much about a lease except you always have a car payment and Dave Ramsey calls them a "Fleece".
 
Kidding aside, my opinion is the dealer's love leases for a reason, $$$$$. If you think about it, you can buy the car at the lowest possible cash price (historic buyers market), finance the thing for next to nothing with no money at closing, and later on if you choose sell it on the open market in 36 months or so without worrying about all the miles and factors, and other minusha that always favors the dealers. Basically your doing what their doing on the back end - they call it pre-owned, you call it 1 owner with perfect documentation. What could be better?
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Re: 2009 BMW 335 xi LEASE HELP [acuraprice] by ltyenta
Jul 11, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: acuraprice (Jul 09, 2009 7:01 pm)

I hear what you're saying. Perhaps I'll see what the payment would be buying the car. I have two weeks to decide. I had searched the money factor then called another dealer who was kind enough to let me know it's actually .00145. I worked the payment and clarified with the other dealer that the payment should be $711.36 which is $70.00 less than when I originally ordered the car. I called my dealer he agreed to the new payment not to lose me as a customer.
Thanks for you're help!!
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Used 2009 335i question by stdr
Jul 11, 2009 (3:07 pm)
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Hi I am planning to buy a used 1 owner clean carfax 335i 8k miles, metallic gray with black Dakota/Sport/Premium/IpodUSB/Nav/Parking sensors/Cold weather/logic7 for 39000. Is this a good deal? Thanks
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Deals on custom ordered 328i by dalntgenius
Jul 11, 2009 (5:04 pm)
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I was looking to custom order a 328i with all of the options/colors I wanted and the dealer only offered me $2k off of MSRP. I've never tried to negotiate over a car that has not been built yet. Any feedback on how to negotiate in a situation like this? What should my expectations be for how much they would move?
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Re: Deals on custom ordered 328i [dalntgenius] by acuraprice
Jul 12, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: dalntgenius (Jul 11, 2009 5:04 pm)

They will sell the car at 10% behind MSRP, but it would likely involve them looking at available (already out there somewhere) cars that they could trade for. I'm speaking from experience, on July 2nd I let them authorize my credit card for $1,000 to get a 335i hard loaded that was on the water (on it's way over from Germany) for $46,500 on a $51,845 MSRP car. That's 10.3% off MSRP. You gotta print out the exact car w every option you want at BMWUSA.COM and take it in and tell them find me the car and I'll pay $XXXXX. Be ready to walk to another dealership. I guarantee they will be calling back. They can still make a little money at 10% off MSRP. They probably won't order the car from the factory for you, but you never know. Good luck. Look at my previous posts on my deal. FYI....we backed out (got cold feet) and they never charged our credit card for the $1,000 - they were very, very nice about everything. I felt bad, but we decided we just didn't want to roll $50K drive out into a car. Atleast not yet anyway. Looking at a loaded V6 Accord Sedan w NAV for around $26,000 on a $31,615 MSRP. Sleeping better at night, but my Beemer days are still ahead!! Good luck to you and let me know if you need the dealer/contact I dealt with. Dave

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