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BMW 3 Series, BMW 5 Series, Coupe, Convertible, Sedan, Wagon
Please share your Euro delivery experience here!
#949 of 1563 Re: ED invoice prices [bigpapaluke]
Jun 06, 2005 (9:37 am)
You got it. All prices (except the base car) for both MSRP and Invoice are the same regardless of how the car is procured.
Gee, your first trip to Europe and driving a BMW no less. Not too shabby. My first trip was via bicycle, and my second was via a 1985 Fiat Uno Diesel that sported maybe 36 HP. I didn't get to drive a BMW in Europe until something like 1996, and even then it was only a 318i (which got dusted by a Chrysler Caravan on the Autobahn).
#950 of 1563 ED TImeline?
Jun 06, 2005 (11:55 am)
What is the timeline when you get a vehicle through ED?
i.e., lets assume that I order one today...approx how long before it is ready for pickup in Munich? and how long after I drop it off in Europe can I expect to see it at my dealer (Texas)?
Does it matter if its a 3 Series or a 5 Series (I have not yet decided between the two)?
Also, what sort of window do they give for Munich delivery?...I am assuming that they give a range of dates that you can pick your car up?...is it a week?...a month?
Thanks for your help
#951 of 1563 Re: ED invoice prices [shipo]
Jun 06, 2005 (12:45 pm)
Thank you sir. I've recycled through enough cars at my age where I finally know what I want, and since there is a cool European program that can go along with it, I thought "Why not?". Plus the fact that the Mrs has been begging for a vacation to Europe since we've been married but a couple of job changes and relocations have prevented that from happening. So in this case, we both win. Still a ways off from actually doing it, but at least it's nice to know there's an option.
#952 of 1563 I just placed my ED order!
Jun 06, 2005 (1:12 pm)
Thanks for everyone's postings - you all made me an informed buyer! Yesterday I placed my order for a 325i w/ ZSP as the only option. Now I only got about $500 off of ED MSRP, but I still really like the payment. (Actually, it was $1000 off, but they marked up the acquisition fee, and a touch on the mf - so it netted to $500). I tried doing the $1500 over ED invoice, but I just reached a point where I wanted the car and didn't care about a few dollars a month on a 3 year lease. I pick it up in early September and will let you all know about the trip when I return.
#953 of 1563 Re: ED TImeline? [bmq]
Jun 07, 2005 (4:42 am)
Absolute minimum, I am not sure.
Payment arrangements are made two weeks before delivery. Theoretically then if you are paying cash and the vehicle you want is available in Europe, two weeks.
Realistically, you need a VIN number to borrow or lease. Add 6-8 weeks. Therefore, plan at least 3 months ahead and time should not be a problem on most BMWs. Allotments will be an issue on popular models. When the 6 Series Coupes were introduced the dealer I use was 6 months out on their allotments.
Instead of ordering today and determining delivery, decide when you want to go to Europe and order for that delivery date. Our car was ready a month ahead of delivery.
#954 of 1563 Re: ED TImeline? [bmq]
Jun 07, 2005 (11:31 am)
Your dealer will contact BMWNA to confirm the next available date, and if your desired date is far enough in advance, it shouldn't be a problem in locking it up. And, you're obligated to pick up the car on that day (not the day before, or the day or week after).
Last year, I wanted to pick up my car on the Friday before Memorial Day. I contacted a few ED-knowledgeable dealers during the last week in March 2004. The dealer confirmed the date and I placed my order on 3/31. I recall the dealer saying I took the last ED slot for that day (5/28). Next time, I will order earlier to ensure no problems in getting the ED date I want.
I dropped off the car in Munich on 6/12, and it was redelivered (in nothern CA) on 7/24. Redelivery to a TX dealer may be a tad quicker as the boat won't have to sail through the Panama Canal, and assuming no delays at the VPC.
#955 of 1563 ED - Dealer Lock
Jun 07, 2005 (1:25 pm)
I am one of those unfortunate to live in a large metro area with only two BMW dealers (Dallas area). This lack of competition leads to the dealers not willing to negotiate very much off the ED MSRP.
Here is my questions: If I find a dealer on the East Coast or California willing to cut me a deal (ED invoice + $1200/$1500), and order through him, can I then have the car shipped to one of the Dallas dealers? Or will they only ship the car to the dealer where the order was placed?
Thanks for the help.
#956 of 1563 Re: ED - Dealer Lock [bmq]
Jun 07, 2005 (2:50 pm)
Remote ED buying is certainly possible and I've heard of three different methods of achieving final U.S. delivery:
1) Buy a plane ticket (or other form of one-way transportation) to the selling dealer and drive it home
2) Pay a shipping charge for a third party to deliver the car. I heard that one guy paid $600 to have his NYC area selling dealer ship him his car to Chicago. Hmmm, kind of expensive to Dallas.
3) I've heard of a single case where my (former) Sales Associate at Park Avenue BMW in New Jersey managed to figure out how to piggyback a car on the BMW transport system from the VPC directly to the local Denver area dealership, where the buyer simply arrived and took possession, much to the chagrin of the dealership that wouldn't budge on price.
In your case, I've heard that dealers in Shreveport, Austin and maybe San Antonio are far more willing to deal than the folks in Dallas, however, I've never heard any reports about any ED deals through them. Were I in your shoes, I'd cast my net that far and see what you get. If that comes up empty, cast it further. Hopefully you can find a dealer within 500 miles which would make the logistics a hell of a lot easier than shipping your car from Maryland or New Jersey.
Good luck and let us know how you fare.
#957 of 1563 Re: ED - Dealer Lock [shipo]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jun 07, 2005 (7:06 pm)
Only two dealers in the DFW area?
I thought everything was bigger in Texas..
Jun 07, 2005 (7:33 pm)
yeah, the profit margins.