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Ford Escape Hybrid, Hybrid Cars
Dec 17, 2004 (2:29 am)
Bought an Escape Hybrid 4 weeks ago. Might be able to answer a question or two...also have a 2002 Prius so I have some additional hybrid knowledge.
1. Ford developed their system independently of Toyota (some report Volvo was involved, which would make sense as Volvo did a hybrid concept car in the 90s). When the lawyers got to looking at the systems the determined there was some overlap and could be patent infringement issues. Ford licensed some key patents from Toyota to prevent any legal problems down the road. So the answer is, Ford is independant _and_ they paid Toyota.
2. It should certainly be possible to drive in EV-only mode given the following conditions:
a) AC is not set to MAX or either Defroster setting
b) Engine (and more importantly catalytic converter) is warmed up sufficiently
c) Battery is sufficiently charged
d) Terrain is flat to downhill.
Under the right conditions I've been able to keep it in EV mode at speeds up to 40 mph (meaning downhill). You get to a certain speed and the gas engine has to turn to protect the electric motor from overspeeding.
Mileage: I've been consistently getting between 27 and 28 mpg in mixed driving. This is the 4x4 version and part of my commute involves a large hill climb that can't be avoided. Generally my mileage goes down during the work week, and climbs during the weekend.
Price: We walked into the dealership cold and paid cash with a trade-in. We ended up givng about $1500 over sticker by the time it was over and done with. We had not expected to be able to purchase on the spot but they had a vehicle so we decided to go for it.
Trailer hitch: I'm struggling with this right now. I have a small tent trailer (900 lbs) that I need to be able to tow. The hybrid hotline at Ford claims I should be able to find an aftermarket fitment without any trouble. So far, nothing.
#871 of 1617 Re: Hi All [stevewa]
Dec 17, 2004 (1:15 pm)
" Trailer hitch: I'm struggling with this right now. I have a small tent trailer (900 lbs) that I need to be able to tow. "
Would that be the total weight, or empty? Max is 1000 lbs...
#872 of 1617 Re: Hi All [stevedebi]
Dec 17, 2004 (6:16 pm)
Supposed to weigh 900 lbs ready to roll. There's not a lot of space for storage when the top is cranked down...
#874 of 1617 Re: Hi All [stevedebi]
Dec 20, 2004 (12:26 pm)
I send an E-mail to the trailer hitch people discussed above (trailer.com) and they send a reply that said there is not a trailer hitch available for the Escape Hybrid as of yet. The response came 20 Dec 04
#875 of 1617 Re: Give me your advice [maxx4me]
Dec 21, 2004 (8:22 am)
Have you thought about the Toyota Prius??
I have owned the following Hybrids:
Honda Insight, Honda Civic, the First Prius and the Second newly done Prius. I have a Escape ordered, but the room of the Prius may suit you well, while not quite the room of a Escape, its hatch back with fold down seats does provide quite a bit of room.
#876 of 1617 Re: Audiophile System questions [lblair]
Dec 21, 2004 (11:52 pm)
I have yet to hear of an Escape Hybrid without the Audiophile system. I can tell you it's a very nice stereo and a decent navigation system. The nav system would be better with a larger screen and with touch screen instead of joystick. Since most factory nav systems run in the $2k range $1850 for the upgraded stereo with nav seems, while not truly reasonable, unsurprising.
#878 of 1617 Slow in the mountains?
Dec 22, 2004 (6:54 pm)
I just followed an Escape Hybrid up Interstate 8 out of San Diego. On the long grade heading East I could not get around him for several miles. This stretch is posted 70 mph and everyone is going 75-80 mph during rush hour. This guy in the Hybrid was not going 50 miles per hour up that long uphill stretch. He had dozens of cars behind him and we could not get into the left lane as that traffic was moving 75+ mph and we were all going 50 behind this Escape. I don't know if he was watching his gizmo readouts and trying to get the best mileage or what. He had a lot of unhappy people backed up in the right lane. If that is all that car has on a steep grade, it needs to be recalled and scrapped.
#879 of 1617 Re: Slow in the mountains? [gagrice]
Dec 22, 2004 (7:12 pm)
I've never experienced a numskull in a plain ole ICE before and the hybrids come with a magic wand to prevent this so what happened ?