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#9 of 1583 GM/Chrysler Hybrid trucks by msdickerson Feb 05, 2003 (6:23 am)
One note on those hybrids - They are only hybrid to the extent that the start/generator are now integrated into the drive train, and will only allow for engine stopping at red lights. The batteries used in those "proposed" vehicals are only on the 42volt range and cannot offer any of the benefits of the current Toyota Prius for example - the mileage of those trucks will only be about 5-10% better which equates to about a 2 mpg improvement. These are basically not real hybrids in the form that the Toyota company has produced.   Too bad for us in the US that Toyota is not selling its 4wd (Sienna chassied) Hybrid van in this country - It gets 40 mpg and does 0-60 in 7.5 seconds or so. I think when those vans were released in Japan they were selling for about 27,000$ (they started retail sales in Japan last year - 2001)   I would recommend not waiting for the US manufacturers to bring out anything more than a marketting ploy to pretend they are selling hybrids. They have been avoiding actually releasing anything for years now, and I cannot believe they will change their ways until they start loosing big market share..   steve d.
#10 of 1583 Escape Hybrid by jchan2 Feb 08, 2003 (12:08 pm)
Do you know if the upcoming Ford Freestar (04 Windstar) will get Hybrid power? I'd really like a van with a hybrid engine. (I've heard that Toyota plans a Sienna Hybrid for model year 05.
#11 of 1583 Escape Hybrid Battery Replacement Cost? by alaskaserve Apr 14, 2003 (11:57 pm)
I like all the attractive features of Ford's 2004 Escape Hybrid SUV. I have requested more information on the warrantee and customer replacement cost on the hybrid battery cells. No response in more than 6 months. I assume prices for these batteries are not yet available. Before I invest in this vehicle, that battery price will probably be the deciding factor. I successfully maintain my vehicles beyond 300,000 miles. The cost of rebuilding and replacing parts is far less then buying new vehicles every 80,000 to 100,000 miles. I hope the Escape battery is not a few thousand dollars every couple of years or so! I wonder what effect the colder parts of Alaska may have on the hybrid battery system. I hope someone will enlighten me with realistic maintenance costs of this Escape hybrid. I realize a strong point for many buyers of the hybrid is to be green... to contribute to a cleaner environment.
#12 of 1583 by coolguyky7 Apr 15, 2003 (1:51 pm)
Toyota is expected to have a hybrid Sienna and Camry within the next few years. Look for the RX330 as a hybrid within the next 18 months.
#13 of 1583 Re: Alaskaserve by spamlet Apr 16, 2003 (6:13 am)
I believe that Ford will have a 7 yr warranty on the batteries. Please don't quote me on that, but I did read where the warranty will be used to help sell the public on the hybrid car.
#14 of 1583 by baggs32 Apr 16, 2003 (11:23 am)
Hybrid pics from the NY Auto Show:   http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2003_newyork/escape/index.htm
#15 of 1583 by wneiwer Apr 21, 2003 (11:36 am)
Does anyone have an estimate for what the MSRP for the Escape Hybrid will be when sold to the public in the summer of 2004? I'm not sure what the markup has been for previously released hybrids by other manufacturers, but I imagine it will be comparable.
#16 of 1583 by baggs32 Apr 22, 2003 (5:47 am)
wneiwer, I think the markup is usually $2000 - $3000 over the comparable all combustion models. Take a look at the difference in price between the Honda Civic EX and the Civic Hybrid for a better idea.   Earlier rumors had the Hybrid Escape going for about $2000 more than a comparable XLT V6. Don't quote me on that though.
#17 of 1583 I was waiting for one... by gd99 Apr 25, 2003 (9:18 am)
I wanted the escape however when my wife got her Civic Hybrid a few months back I stopped waiting. When the US automakers decide to offer a choice, not just promo materials I might reconsider. In the meantime we went out and got a second Civic Hybrid.   We had a Nissan Frontier SE Pickup and a Blazer 2 door prior to trading each one in on the Civic's. At first I wanted to wait for the Escape but when 2003 turned into end of 2003, then Mid 2004 for the "public" I took an honest look at my SUV/Pickup needs and decided for the 2-3 times per year that I actually utilize the carrying/hauling capacity of them I could easily borrow or rent. Getting 16 MPG in my old blazer for the 3 days that I really need the carrying capacity wasn't worth it. Now we regularly get 50+ MPGs. (brochure said 47/48).   If you really need/use the carrying capacity then the Escape Hybrid should be a winner. I've been bugging Honda about offering the CRV as a hybrid for months.   -G
#18 of 1583 gd by coolguyky7 Apr 25, 2003 (5:54 pm)
I'm not sure how much carrying capacity you'll be needing, but the 2004 Prius should be a very promising hybrid since it is now in liftback form and that will help maximize hauling capacity. Not to mention that the Escape will be using Toyota's old hybrid technology while the 2004 Prius pioneers second generation technology.

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