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Ford Escape Hybrid, Hybrid Cars
#1541 of 1617 Re: hybrid vs non hybrid [explorerx4]
Jul 16, 2008 (3:07 pm)
"my wife has an '04 escape limited. she is thinking of replacing it with an '09 hybrid limited.
my basic analysis, which excludes finance charges, insurance and annual property taxes is pretty much a wash $4.00 per gallon over 5 years.
anyone else have an opinion? "
If your 04 Escape is running well, you will never make up the difference in payments (zero $$ with the 2004, XXX $$ with the new FEH) based on the MPG gains. So if you like the 2004, my suggestion is to keep it.
If you are definitely getting rid of the 04, then the FEH is a good option, though it is a bit more expensive than a 2009 ICE Escape. A limited will cost you 33K. If you don't need an SUV, consider the Toyota Prius or Honda Civic Hybrid; both are considerably cheaper than the FEH - and get much better MPG.
One thing to consider is the driving you will do. If it is all short trips, then a Hybrid is not generally the best option - it has to warm up the engine before the hybrid technology kicks in completely. It also gets less MPG in winter. A last item is the fact that the FEH A/C shuts off if the car is stopped (in ECON mode) - so you are forced to live without A/C while stopped, or lose the MPG gained by the engine shutting down. The Prius has an electric A/C compressor and does not have this limitation.
#1542 of 1617 Re: hybrid vs non hybrid [stevedebi]
Jul 17, 2008 (7:05 am)
#1543 of 1617 FEH Tax Credit Update
Jul 18, 2008 (10:18 am)
From my dealer today:
"As of June 30, 2008, Ford Motor Company has 55,990 Hybrid Vehicles (in the tax credit window)(Escape and Mariner Hybrids). Based on Sales patterns, it appears the 60,000 unit threshold will be reached within the 3rd Quarter of 2008. If this is the case, purchasers of an Escape Hybrid would be eiligible for the full tax credit until December 31, 2008."
#1544 of 1617 Re: FEH Tax Credit Update [burnsva]
Jul 18, 2008 (3:43 pm)
" "As of June 30, 2008, Ford Motor Company has 55,990 Hybrid Vehicles (in the tax credit window)(Escape and Mariner Hybrids). Based on Sales patterns, it appears the 60,000 unit threshold will be reached within the 3rd Quarter of 2008. If this is the case, purchasers of an Escape Hybrid would be eiligible for the full tax credit until December 31, 2008." "
As near as I can tell, the credits run out six months AFTER the quarter in which 60K is achieved, which would be Mar 30, 2009, if I understand you to say that Ford had not sold 60K before July 1.
#1546 of 1617 Re: any problems? [bmdouble]
Jul 21, 2008 (10:24 pm)
I noticed you're from San Antonio, have the 09's arrived at your dealership?
#1547 of 1617 Re: any problems? [alamocity]
Jul 22, 2008 (10:36 am)
I'm in San Antonio, too. I haven't seen any. We did order an '09 MMH last week though...
#1548 of 1617 Re: any problems? [pobre08]
Jul 22, 2008 (6:52 pm)
Were you able to utilize the X plan pricing when you ordered? I see Red McCombs is showing some of the non hybrid ones in stock.
#1549 of 1617 Re: any problems? [alamocity]
Jul 23, 2008 (8:56 am)
Yes, we did order under X-Plan, from North Park LM. No issues. However, I need to follow up to see if they have received the DORA, tec. They told us October delivery. We also shopped Northside Ford, and they also welcomed X-Plan.
We debated the FEH vs MMH, but, the MMH worked out to be cheaper based on what we wanted. Bummer, is that they don't offer the side steps on MMH.
Also, just checked NPLM website...they are showing in stock 3 '08 MMH's.
#1550 of 1617 Re: any problems? [bmdouble]
Jul 24, 2008 (7:15 am)
You being a technician on the FEH, I wonder if you have any insight on the 2009. Specifically, the AC. I'm considering ordering a 2009 but I understand the AC can be frustrating because it cuts off when the car is stopped. The only way to keep it running is to put the AC on MAX which causes the gas engine to start so the AC can run. That kind of defeats the purpose of having a hybrid. I called the Ford customer line and asked if they knew if this issue would be corrected in the 2009 model. I was told that information was not available at this time. Any suggestions as to how I can find out?