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Re: 08 FEH HWY noise [jayman53] by stevedebi
Apr 20, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: jayman53 (Apr 19, 2008 6:44 pm)

"Rented an 2008 FEH... very nice on the local city driving, but on the hwy, wow..loud drone all the way to Vegas...the radio was really competing...other that this lack of quiet and the leather seats a bit firm for a long drive, the suv is great..would buy one , but not sure about that hwy din...is it the Continental Tires? "
 
I just took a 50 mile (one way) trip in my new 2008. It is an AWD. It is NOT loud on the road, but then I never got over 70 MPH. In fact I noticed how very quiet it runs.
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Error in the Edmunds FEH Review? by stevedebi
Apr 22, 2008 (11:32 am)
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The Edmunds editor review of the FEH indicates that the AWD uses electric motors:
 
"On AWD Escape Hybrid models, a third electric motor steps in to drive the rear wheels when extra acceleration or traction is needed. It's not a true all-wheel-drive system, though, and buyers needing a serious snow vehicle will be better served by the regular gasoline-powered Escape."
 
I think that the FEH uses a mechanical (electronically controlled) AWD system. The owner's manual has no warnings about the AWD system over heating, such as I would expect of an electric motor, and the underside of my FEH appears to be a normal AWD transfer case.
 
The following is from the owner's manual, page 151:
 
"Power is supplied to all four wheels through a transfer case or power transfer unit. You should become thoroughly familiar with this information before you operate your vehicle."
 
This would make the FEH a superior AWD system over the all-electric Toyota HH (in my opinion), because it isn't subject to overheating and shutting down.
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Re: Error in the Edmunds FEH Review? [stevedebi] by mecheng1
Apr 23, 2008 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 22, 2008 11:32 am)

Your quote from Edmunds about a "third electric motor" is completely false for the FEH 05/06/07/08 MYs. [The Toyota HiHy uses the third motor to provide AWD along with VSC.] The FEH AWD is superior in some aspects but it has (in part) prevented development of Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) for the FEH. The 2009 FEH is rumored to have VSC and AWD.
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Re: Error in the Edmunds FEH Review? [mecheng1] by stevedebi
Apr 23, 2008 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Apr 23, 2008 5:55 am)

"Your quote from Edmunds about a "third electric motor" is completely false for the FEH 05/06/07/08 MYs. "
 
Excuse me, but my QUOTE was accurate. The whole point of my post was that the Edmunds REVIEW was inaccurate.
 
If I understand you correctly you you are confirming my post.
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Re: Error in the Edmunds FEH Review? [stevedebi] by mecheng1
Apr 24, 2008 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 23, 2008 10:34 am)

The information in your quote was completely inaccurate. That better?
[sheesh, sometimes responses in these forums get so emotional]
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Re: Error in the Edmunds FEH Review? [mecheng1] by stevedebi
Apr 24, 2008 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Apr 24, 2008 6:18 am)

"The information in your quote was completely inaccurate. That better?
[sheesh, sometimes responses in these forums get so emotional]"
 
Ah, right. Just to reiterate - here are the points.
 
1. The FEH has a mechanical AWD system.
2. The Edmunds review of the FWH INCORRECTLY describes it as having a "3rd electric motor" to run the AWD system.
 
I was actually hoping that the host would pick up on this and get the editorial staff to update the review.
 
This is an important advantage to people in the snow belt: the Toyota HH AWD electric motors will shut down if they overheat (such as spinning a lot). The FEH mechanical system is not subject to these limitations.
 
But in any case, do you have a URL that explains the system? I am assuming it is the same electronically controlled system as the ICE only Escape, but the Ford vehicles website doesn't have any details.
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Interesting HVAC activity by stevedebi
Apr 24, 2008 (10:47 am)
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This morning it was about 45 - 50 degrees outside. The night before I had set my temp control to 60, for fresh air, and manual fan setting. This morning I set the driver temp to 70 and hit the AUTO switch on the driver's side. In my Freestyle, hitting AUTO automatically turned on the A/C compressor. Instead, the A/C light stayed out. I was in ECON mode. As always, the first 1/2 mile of my morning commute was via electric only (even though the engine was running).
 
FWIW, I hit the AUTO button because Ford vehicles are set to turn off the fans until the engine is heated up. Since the FEH has no engine temp guage, hitting AUTO gives a rough idea of how the engine is doing on the warm up, although the fans will run for a while before the engine is hot enough to use EV.
 
I already know that turning off ECON will run the compressor, and turning on the defrost or defrost / floor will also activate it.
 
Does anyone know how the FEH is programmed to turn on the compressor?
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ECON vs. COMP by nvbanker
Apr 25, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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The Ford system will deactivate the Compressor for economy reasons below 55 degrees, but turn it on again at around 40 degrees to dehumidify where possible. Over 55 degrees, AUTO will bring the compressor online. In this case, what you are experiencing is all due to outside ambient temperatures.
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FEH frequency affects by dcwestby
Apr 26, 2008 (5:50 am)
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I recently tried an 08 FEH, I never did like the thrumming at 50+mph tho. I am sensitive to some frequencies especially sound near bass levels, and for some reason this thrummin affected my mind and gave me a literal consistent headache.
 
Has anyone else experienced this kind of problem?
 
The dealer had a 72hr exchange policy but only for something equal or greater in value from whats being returned. got a ford edge now.. will continue to look into hybrids however.
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Press Request by KarenS HOST
May 13, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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A reporter is hoping to talk with hybrid owners who have had to replace the hybrid's battery. Please respond to ctalatiedmunds.com before Friday, May 16, 2008 with your daytime contact information and a few words about your experience.

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