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#1445 of 1583 Re: gauges [djbescape] by carysbluesky Sep 13, 2007 (6:33 am)
Replying to: djbescape (Jan 15, 2007 2:23 pm) Dealer's full of crap. The guage moves when the system is being charged by braking or assisted when accelerating.
#1446 of 1583 RE: Replies to "Jump Start" question. [rnarg] by stevedebi Sep 13, 2007 (9:33 am)
Replying to: rnarg (Sep 11, 2007 2:01 pm) "Doesn't look like there would be much use in carrying jumper cables as part of an Escape Hybrid's Emergency kit. "   Actually, the vehicle needs the 12 volt battery to start, so jumper cable can be used if the 12 volt goes flat.   Basically the 12 volt powers up the electronics so that the main hybrid batteries and system can be engaged.   Personally I don't carry jumper cables in my ICE vehicles any more - I use my AAA card for problems like that!
#1447 of 1583 Experience with a 1st Gen FEH. by mschmal Sep 14, 2007 (3:22 am)
Last year, I swapped in a FEH from another dealer. That dealer had the vehicle on their showroom floor. Naturally, due to peeps opening and closing doors, messing with pwr seat, etc. The 12V battery went dead. That dealer jumped the car to get it too me.   When I got the car, I discovered that something was not quite right so I sent it back to the shop and it was found that the dead battery condition caused the hybrid control modual to "self distruct". Naturally it was fixed under warranty before we deliveried the car but the part had to be back ordered.   Mark.
#1448 of 1583 Re: Jump Start? [rnarg] by villagracia Sep 14, 2007 (12:34 pm)
Replying to: rnarg (Sep 11, 2007 9:59 am) There are 2 separate jump starting procedures in the 2006/2007 FEH Owner's Manual. The first is on page 244, which deals with a discharged 12 Volt battery, which is needed to power the Battery Energy Control (BECM), Power Control (PCM) and Transmission Control (TCM) Modules. All have to be operating to start the FEH because the transmission's motor/generator IS the starter. The BECM and PCM also have to be powered-up in order to energize the battery disconnect relay and the internal combustion engine (ICE) fuel and ignition systems. This, of course, assumes that the 330V high voltage battery has enough charge to run the motor/generator in order to "crank" the ICE.   If the HV battery is discharged (through weeks of inactivity or by running in 5 mph "limp home" mode, like what happens when you run out of gas ), you will instead need to use the HV Battery Jump starting procedure on page 248. This allows the user to use the internal HV inverter to charge the HV battery. You have to remove a plastic cover on the left driver's side kick panel and press a button. The process takes about 8 minutes and you will hear a high-pitched whine similar to what you hear when a camera's flash unit is charging. One more thing: This procedure tends to drain the 12V battery after several attempts, so make sure your car's 12V battery is fully charged before attempting to do this. Hope this helps! Replies to this message: baysailor (Jan 20, 2008 8:16 pm) mschmal (Jan 22, 2008 3:00 pm)
#1449 of 1583 Green Car Advisor by pf_flyer HOST Sep 14, 2007 (1:10 pm)
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#1450 of 1583 Re: Interior by jefe74 Sep 15, 2007 (8:13 am)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Sep 14, 2007 1:10 pm) Why only tan? get some real options for the hybrid. It's the biggest thing making me reconsider.
#1451 of 1583 Re: Electric Assist [mecheng1] by kedl Oct 30, 2007 (5:04 pm)
Replying to: mecheng1 (Jun 11, 2007 5:55 am) I'm strongly considering buying the 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid, but hear that if the A/C or Heater is on that the electric motor will not be used, even when driving less than 25 mph in "D". Is this true? I really hope not. The person that told me this said that with the 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid that either you use full electric or full gas, but never a combination of both. Is this true? I really hope not. If someone could point me to some documentation from Ford that says otherwise then that would be great!   Cheers Replies to this message: carysbluesky (Oct 31, 2007 2:57 am) jdw334 (Oct 31, 2007 3:52 am) carysbluesky (Jan 21, 2008 2:16 am)
#1452 of 1583 Re: Electric Assist [kedl] by carysbluesky Oct 31, 2007 (2:57 am)
Replying to: kedl (Oct 30, 2007 5:04 pm) Unless Ford has completely overhauled their system, you use both battery and engine anytime you accelerate beyond that of a turtle. (I own an '06). You can always override the engine shutting down by putting the A/C switch in the "Red" (7 o'clock position); you can't get either A/C or heat if the engine is not running. The design of the hybrid is so the engine shuts down when decelerating below 30 mph. or stopped; this is how you save gas at a stop; and, the reason your milage is better in the city than on the open road.
#1453 of 1583 Re: Electric Assist [kedl] by jdw334 Oct 31, 2007 (3:52 am)
Replying to: kedl (Oct 30, 2007 5:04 pm) Who ever gave you that information was incorrect. The system is designed to use a combination of engine/motor for optimal fuel efficiancy. If you get an 2008 with navigation you will be able to see that on the screen, or with out you will see the needle move in the assist/charge. You will still have heat even when the gas engine is off (I live in New England trust me you still have heat or it would be miserable). You will not get A/C unless you have the control in the orange areas of the dial. With the Ford system the A/C only works when the engine is running. Toyota's newer system (2004 forward) can run the A/C with the engine off, they installed an electric A/C instead of a belt designed one. Read a online test of the vehicle ie. Edmunds for an acurate depiction of how the system works. Go test drive one and you will also see that the person giving you the information was not correct.
#1454 of 1583 RE: Electric Assist by rnarg Nov 01, 2007 (3:11 pm)
As you may be aware, you can still get the benefit of the electric mode with the A/C switch ON as long as you also have the "Econ" switch also on. (2008) The A/C will not be working once the electric motor engages, but since the electric motor doesn't stay on very long anyway (unless stopped in traffic), the A/C will come back on as soon as the gasoline powered engine cuts in. (That is,assuming the temp you have set is calling for it to come on)   Also, I have noticed that once your gasoline powered engine has heated to its operating temperature and you are traveling on a flat or any degree of downgrade, (one where you need hardly touch the accelerator), if your gasoline engine is still engaged, simply tap or apply the brake slightly, and the vehicle will switch to the electric mode and stay there until the nature of the roadway changes to where more than electric power is needed. (This is the way my 2008 is working, but whether it's normal to let you have this little bit of control, I don't know)

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