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Re: [jwalls] by dantz
Dec 02, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: jwalls (Dec 01, 2008 2:52 pm)

It's normal, and it doesn't happen only at the end. From the moment you step onto the lot the entire process is highly manipulative and is designed to wear you down and make you more susceptible to overpaying, especially when it comes to the various overpriced add-ons, most of which are highly profitable for the dealer. Overpaying for the service contract is really no different than falling for the paint sealant/fabric protection package or the anti-theft insurance/window etching racket. Just keep in mind that any extras the dealer offers you, including the Honda Care service contract, will almost certainly be very overpriced. The reality, however, is that everything is negotiable, and as long as you allow them to make a reasonable profit on the deal they will work with you.
 
The finance manager's office is where most of the money is made, and there's also a fat commission at stake, so this is where you can expect to meet with the greatest resistance (if you are negotiating from a position of strength) or pressure (if you are behaving more like putty in their hands). Don't try to be something you're not -- just remember that you are in charge of your own wallet, so your negotiating position is equal to if not stronger than theirs. And yes, unfortunately, they will lie to you. It's their job. Expect it and work with it.
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Re: [dantz] by jwalls
Dec 02, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: dantz (Dec 02, 2008 9:53 am)

Thanks for the great advice. I did not go for the deal, knowing I have time (mileage) on my side. My big delema right now is I have two dealerships on the east coast that are willing to sell me Honda Extended Care warranties at a far more reasonable price ($910.00 vs. $1,500.00) even though everything I have read says its against the law for them to do it ( I live in California). I guess as long as they are willing to take that chance (doesnt say its against the law to BUY them, just to sell them) and they are legit, cant hurt ?
 
What do you think ?
 
Jim
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Re: [jwalls] by dantz
Dec 02, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: jwalls (Dec 02, 2008 11:30 am)

I think you should buy your Honda Care contract from a Honda dealer in California, as there's no legal or honest way to do otherwise. You may have to pay a bit more than the online price, but that's life. Consider it the cost of doing business in the Great State of California. At least you'll be helping the local economy.
 
I suggest you call around to see if any other California-based Honda dealers will quote you a decent price. Even better, send each dealer an email stating the price you are willing to pay for a specified contract. Spell it out and make it easy for them. For example: "I have just purchased a 2009 Honda Pilot and I'm looking for a Honda dealer in California who will sell me a competitively-priced Honda Care service contract. My vehicle has only xxx miles. I will pay up to $925 for a Honda Care contract, Plan Code D78 (84 months, 80,000 miles, zero-deductible). I'm ready to buy the contract today." (You might even let your current dealer know what you're up to and give them one last chance to be the one who sells you the contract.)
 
My sample price allows for roughly $200 of profit, which ought to be more than enough to interest some dealerships. It's just a bit of paperwork, after all. Auto sales are down and dealers are getting hungry, so I think you ought to be able to find a taker. Set your own price but make it reasonable, and if they meet or beat your price then I suggest you make it an easy transaction and don't haggle.
 
I also suggest you do a Google search using the search terms "Honda Care California" or similar. I gave it a try and got several relevant hits. My only advice is that you check out each company before you send any money, deal only with reputable Honda dealers, and make sure they're truly selling you a genuine Honda Care contract and not some third-party product. Good luck!
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Re: [dantz] by jwalls
Dec 02, 2008 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: dantz (Dec 02, 2008 2:42 pm)

Well, believe it or not, I sent out probably 20 emails with your "example"..actually cut and paste it adding in my milage and within a half hour a dealership in Downey California said they would match that price !!!
 
Dantz, thanks so much for your advice. You saved me a bunch of money and I really appreciate it
 
Jim
 
My dealership would not go below $1395.00
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Re: [jwalls] by dantz
Dec 02, 2008 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: jwalls (Dec 02, 2008 4:24 pm)

You're very welcome. I'm glad it's working out so well.
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Re: [dantz] by jet10000
Dec 02, 2008 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: dantz (Dec 02, 2008 2:42 pm)

I think you should buy your Honda Care contract from a Honda dealer in California, as there's no legal or honest way to do otherwise.
 
You shouldn't make that comment about legality or honesty until you have read the actual California code that supposedly restricts this type of sale. I have, and links have been posted to it, and it is very vague and does not specifically mention service contracts at all.
 
Some dealers were warned of this, and voluntarily decided to stop selling them. But I challenge you to find a SINGLE case where the State of California has went after any out of state dealership selling them in California. You will not find one.
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Re: [jet10000] by dtownfb
Dec 02, 2008 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: jet10000 (Dec 02, 2008 7:27 pm)

Also the OP did talk to Honda Corporate and that person was not aware of the supposed California restriction. Not saying it doesn't exist but I think the OP did due dilligence by contacting Honda directly. Shouldn't they knoW????
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Re: [jet10000] by dantz
Dec 03, 2008 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: jet10000 (Dec 02, 2008 7:27 pm)

Said by jet10000:
You shouldn't make that comment about legality or honesty until you have read the actual California code that supposedly restricts this type of sale. I have, and links have been posted to it, and it is very vague and does not specifically mention service contracts at all.

 
I just helped a guy save almost $500 and all you can do is criticize my advice that he avoid getting tangled up in legal issues? Anyway, I found the links and read the code, and it's anything but clear. Issues like this are decided in court, not in online forums.
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Re: [dantz] by jet10000
Dec 03, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: dantz (Dec 03, 2008 4:09 pm)

Anyway, I found the links and read the code, and it's anything but clear. Issues like this are decided in court,
 
I agree it should be decided in court. But your original statement declared that it was illegal and dishonest for a California resident to purchase an extended warranty outside of the state. I was merely pointing out that your statement is not accurate in that the code is not clear nor has it been fully resolved in the court. Since I pointed this out, others who read this forum will not be mislead by what you wrote.
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Re: update??? [gardinerr] by davidows
Dec 08, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: gardinerr (Nov 25, 2008 1:04 pm)

"This will determine if we can continue to operate through trial."
 
As I understand it, the only issue to be decided, even in the full trial, is whether Honda dealers can advertise via the internet, not whether they can sell to anyone from another state. That would be a clear violation of laws concerning restraint of trade and interstate commerce.
 
Therefore, even if Honda were to prevail, and I doubt they will, there is nothing stopping any of us from calling Saccucci, Bernardi, Curry or Hyannis Honda and requesting a price, as long as our own state law doesn't prohibit sellers from out of state, as with FL, WA and maybe CA.
 
So we should all make sure that we keep records of the contact info for these dealers (listed alphabetically), as their website addresses may disappear.
 
Bernardi Auto Group
960 Worcester Road
Natick, MA 01760
800.455.5905 (p)
508.651.1394 (f)
SalesTeamBernardiWarranty.com
 
Curry Honda,
765 Memorial Drive,
Chicopee, MA 01020
Sales: 888-670-6449
Fax: 413-593-0230
internetcurrycars.com
 
Hyannis Honda
830 West Main Street
Hyannis, MA 02601
Phone: (508) 778-7878
Fax: (508) 775-6855
infohondacareextendedwarranty.com
 
Saccucci Honda
1350 West Main Road
Middletown, RI 02842
(401)-847-4737
salessaccucci.com
 
In any case, as long as the dealer is willing to sell you the Vehicle Service Contract, the dealer is the one taking the risk, not you. Your state may take action against the dealer, but they cannot invalidate your warranty, IMHO.
 
Even if Honda succeeds in blocking internet advertising, they would have no grounds for refusing to honor the Vehicle Service Contract, and it wouldn't be in their interest to do so. Imagine the consumer uproar if they were to even try! They might as well shoot themselves in the foot.
 
In fact, their database has no way of determining how you came to one of these dealers in the first place.

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