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Re: fidelity's extended warranty [jimmibondi] by dwynne
Dec 01, 2006 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: jimmibondi (Dec 01, 2006 4:19 am)

The problem is, what if you have an $800 now - do you claim it or not? Say you do not, then you have another $500 claim. Well, you are in for $800 out of pocket and now $500 more, so do you claim this one or not? That is the game they are trying to get you to play - keep paying for things out of pocket so they pay nothing. Once you pay for anything then in order to get that money back you can't claim ANYTHING - so now you are stuck.
 
As I said, I bet in the fine print you will see lots of restrictions about early termination and such.
 
If the dealer will stand behind it with a notarize agreement that you could risk it. Otherwise, get HondaCare or just do without.
 
Dennis
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Re: fidelity's extended warranty [dwynne] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 01, 2006 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Dec 01, 2006 7:41 am)

That is the worst thing about insurance... If I use the benefits of the policy, will I lose money elsewhere? Either through higher premiums, or in this case, lack of a refund..
 
I'd rather stay away from that type of insurance..
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Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought by stevehecht
Dec 01, 2006 (6:43 pm)
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OK, I just posted yesterday about buying a SE V6 for a good price from Herb Chambers in Westborough, MA. But I was totally unprepared for the warranty sale by the finance guy. I knew nothing about these warranties and didn't even know there were competitors to shop around to.
 
He offered me an extension on the bumper-to-bumper 3yr/36,000 mile up to 5 yr/60,000 for $805 from API (stating that this price was discounted from their normal rate by 50% or so). At first I refused but then he said that: 1) if I didn't use it I would get the money back (I assumed this meant not using it from 36,001 through 60,000 miles), and; 2) I could cancel the purchase anytime up to the 3yr/36,000 limit.
 
But when I read the refund terms from API it says:
 
"Use of any benefit of the Service Contract, including Roadside Assistance, Car Rental, Towing [etc.] voids the GPR [refund] Program." Does this mean that if I use the service contract EVER from mile one I cannot get a refund on the extension?
 
It also says: "Contract must expire by time (in months) to be eligible for the GPR." Does this mean that if I run up 60,000 miles before five years is up I still can't get a refund?
 
Nowhere does it say I can get a refund at any time before the extension period begins, as the finance guy said. Is this a rip-off? Is the price reasonable for this warranty?
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Re: Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought [stevehecht] by dwynne
Dec 01, 2006 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: stevehecht (Dec 01, 2006 6:43 pm)

Who is API? Will they be around to pay claims? Will any Honda dealer accept them to pay? Will they be around to give you the refund?
 
I can understand folks who think an extended warranty is not something they want to buy, but if you DO decide to buy one you should only get a HondaCare warranty and buy it from a discount dealer (like Bernardi).
 
I would get a refund on this as soon as you can. If does sound like if you use any benefit (roadside, rental car, etc) you get nothing back and yes, you don't get anything back until the months are up, no matter the miles.
 
Dennis
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Re: Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought [dwynne] by stevehecht
Dec 01, 2006 (8:34 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Dec 01, 2006 7:50 pm)

Here is the URL of the policy I bought: http://www.apiprotection.com/premiercare.aspx --you can check out the homepage if you like. The lienholder for this policy is American Honda Finance Corp., so I guess it's legit and the coverage is universal for Honda dealers.
 
I do plan to call to cancel this plan tomorrow--I had better be able to! I've already gotten a quote on the Bernardi website, and for the same money I can get 7yr/100,000 miles with $0 deductible instead of 5yr/60k miles with $100 deductible! What a rip-off!
 
Strangely enough, I had been at Bernardi Honda earlier the same day I bought the car from Herb Chambers but Bernardi didn't have the car I wanted and couldn't meet their price.
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Re: Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought [dwynne] by stevehecht
Dec 01, 2006 (9:12 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Dec 01, 2006 7:50 pm)

Btw, I also checked out https://www.myhondawarranty.com/pricing.php
 
and their prices look better than Bernardi's.
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Re: Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought [stevehecht] by dwynne
Dec 02, 2006 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: stevehecht (Dec 01, 2006 9:12 pm)

You may be right, you should always check around for the best price before you buy. If you are in the same state as the dealer (Bernardi?) do they charge you sales tax on a warranty?
 
It may depend on the coverage select and Honda model as to who is cheapest at any given time.
 
Bernardi for 07 Accord I4 w/$0 deductible
 
5 years/60,000 miles warranty: $435.00
5 years/80,000 miles warranty: $530.00
5 years/100,000 miles warranty:$615.00
6 years/80,000 miles warranty: $550.00
6 years/100,000 miles warranty:$675.00
6 years/120,000 miles warranty:$775.00
7 years/80,000 miles warranty: $570.00
7 years/100,000 miles warranty:$745.00
7 years/120,000 miles warranty:$845.00
8 years/100,000 miles warranty:$825.00
8 years/120,000 miles warranty:$925.00

 
Saccucci for the same car (all $0 deductible):
 
60 months 60k miles $325
60 months 80k miles $530
72 months 80k miles $550
84 months 80k miles $570
60 months 100k miles $615
72 months 100k miles $675
84 months 100k miles $745
72 months 120k miles $775
96 months 100k miles $825
84 months 120k miles $845
96 months 120k miles $925
 

 
I usually just check the 8yr/120k or maybe 8yr/100k when I am spot checking prices and those are the same today. You also get $25 an online part or accessory with Saccuci if you order from them right now. Sounds like a better deal on this model today!
 
Keep in mind that HC is not an extension of the bumper to bumper factory warranty, there are exclusions (like squeaks and rattles, body panels, carpet, upholstery, etc). Read the contract and be sure you can live with the exclusions before you buy.
 
Dennis
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Re: Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought [stevehecht] by dwynne
Dec 02, 2006 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: stevehecht (Dec 01, 2006 8:34 pm)

I think a lot of the dealers sell whatever nets them the most profit, not what might be best for the buyer. It is another way for them to profit from your deal - the buyer hammers them on price, hammers them on trade, then gives all their hard work back in the F&F office by signing up for some "protection package" (fabric coating, paint sealant, rust proofing, etc - none of this is needed) or too high a lease/loan rate or a warranty that is double or triple what it should cost. Imaging how much they make on someone who does not negotiate a good deal? You can see how one price new and used car lots have a lot of appeal to some folks.
 
Dennis
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Re: Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought [dwynne] by stevehecht
Dec 02, 2006 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Dec 02, 2006 9:53 am)

hey Dennis,
 
I just checked Bernardi and Saccuci and they have the same rates for my V6 Accord:
 
5yr/80k $555
7yr/120k $900
8yr/120k $980
$0 deductible
 
No tax on the policy for Massachusetts residents according to Bernardi, but they do charge $50 for setting up a 0% APR 1 year payment schedule. Saccuci charges a $25 fee.
 
According to Saccuci, the 0% APR (they give you a HondaFinance credit card) would save you $81 on $1000 at 16.1% APR. (Their fee is $25 and the special $25 offer on parts cancel each other out.) But since you pay 10% down and none of the 0% deductible policies cost $1000, you won't be borrowing $1000 and the amount saved in a year will be less.
 
In my case my credit card charges only 11.25%, so I would only save $53 in interest on $882 ($980 less 10% for the 8/0/120 plan) with Saccuci. Bernardi charges $50 for the 0% APR and does not give a $25 certificate, so the savings is only $3 ($53 saved-$50 fee). If I go with Saccuci I will save $53.
 
Please check my math!
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Re: Mass confusion (mine) on warranty I bought [dwynne] by stevehecht
Dec 02, 2006 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: dwynne (Dec 02, 2006 10:00 am)

You've described exactly what happened to me, and I'm sure happens to everyone else at this dealer. I was also thinking about how many people get ripped off at one, two, or three steps in the process--which is why they're willing to let me get a good price on the car, fair price for trade-in, and let me cancel my rip-off EW (which they said they would do, btw). I'm picking up the car tomorrow and canceling the EW--let's see if I can do both!

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