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#325 of 2475 Middle seats again, leather, and quality
Jul 18, 2003 (5:03 am)
Thanks for the two posts offering additional info about the (possible) middle seat interference with the front seats.
I most definitely had trouble with this, but I will concede that it is possible it was my own error: perhaps the middle seat was not all the way down? Still, there was interference; my wife confirms this.
We've pretty much decided against the Quest now. When we finally saw one with leather, we noticed that they did not put leather on the door armrests; they still have the cheap-looking fabric. The leather I saw was the reddish-brown color. It had a pattern on it which made it look less like leather and more like cloth, in my opinion. Perhaps the beige is nicer-looking.
What it comes down to (for us) is perceived quality. Our perception of the quality of materials used in the interior was that it was not up to Nissan's standards from our experience (two prior Nissan's: 1993 and 2000).
If the quality seems lacking for the things you can observe, how much more so for the things you cannot?
The Renault influence on Nissan may have been one to improve the latter company's financials, but, in our opinion, it has also been one to lower the company's relative quality ranking vs. Toyota and Honda.
Having said this, I will also say that I am disappointed. I had hoped that I would decide on a Quest. I had hoped for real competition for the Sienna and Odyssey. I appreciate the stance that Nissan took to distinguish itself from the others and to provide a unique personality for the Quest. I just think they took the less-expensive path.
Just our opinion, folks! Congratulations to those of you who have purchased a new Quest. Enjoy!
Jul 18, 2003 (5:20 am)
I'm just curious as to where people are test driving the Quest. I live in New York State and have yet to hear about it on any lots. I'm guessing in the South it is available. Any ideas when it might make it up here? I'm getting slightly inpatient now, I guess, especially now that I know it is coming soon!
#327 of 2475 Here's a Quest in NY
Jul 18, 2003 (7:06 am)
Two dealers that I know of have them. The dealer in Albany (518-482-0100) has the leather seats and is listed at $34,000 and a dealer in Latham (518-785-8531) has cloth seats and is listed at $28,000.
I hope you live nearby.
#328 of 2475 please
by steve_ HOST
Jul 18, 2003 (9:05 am)
No phone numbers - we don't have time or resources to verify those. Better just to name the dealers and leave it at that. Thanks.
Jul 18, 2003 (9:40 am)
thanks sopman...i'm assuming an sl and se...i live about 2 hours away...if they are in Albany, I would expect them to be in Binghamton soon, which is my area...I'll probably be able to wait it out a little...prices seem a little higher than I expected...i'll check out the websites to get the info on them... thanks again...
I also have another question for anyone else interested...Edmunds lists the holdback price for the Quest as 3 percent of the total invoice....does that mean that the dealer receives that money for selling the vehicle?...or do they pay that much more over the invoice, which they have returned once the vehicle is sold? This will help with any potential bargaining...thanks.
#330 of 2475 Interior Quality
Jul 18, 2003 (10:23 am)
I had a chance to take a quick look at an SE last night on my way home from work -- it had the beige leather interior. I love the overall design of this car, but I'm afraid I'm coming to the same conclusion as daveandlily -- the fit/finish and quality of the interior is just not up to par.
I was very disappointed in the look/feel of the leather. Similarly, although the skyview roof looks impressive, the sunshades for the rear skylights did not look very durable. I couldn't help but envision them breaking easily.
I hope that Nissan gets some of this feedback, and realizes that skimping on the interior materials is pennywise and pound foolish.
I have less concern about the mechanicals. Basically, this is the same running gear as the Altima and Maxima, and those have proven to be reliable and good performers.
#331 of 2475 holdback is "sacred"
by steve_ HOST
Jul 18, 2003 (10:56 am)
Here's an article that goes into details.
Since the new Quest hasn't been out 90 days, the dealers are sure to make a profit on holdback for the first few months. Who knows what deals Nissan has made with the distributors or dealers though.
As always, focus on your out the door price and don't worry about how the salespeople are making their car payments.
Jul 18, 2003 (1:00 pm)
Holdback is dealer profit which they will NEVER share with you. But, having the knowledge of holdback helps if they start ranting on how they are selling the vehicle for a loss etc etc. If they give you the old "you are taking food from my children's mouth" talk, shove the "How you make profit with holdback" line in their faces !!
Invoice price is what the dealer pays for the vehicle, but that is NOT their final cost. They get incentives, holdback, commission and lots of other hidden things which you and I will never know about. To be fair to the dealer, a price of Invoice price + 2 or 3% profit is a good deal for you and them. Some dealers hungry for sales will share their holdback or part with it completely, but don't count on it - Especially, on new hot selling vehicles (In which case, you ca forget negotiating too
Jul 18, 2003 (2:00 pm)
Sounds like the Quest is really turning more heads than a top of the line Sienna. Personally, I like the Quest, and I like how the SE has the SkyView roof. I like the blue exterior and the sand exterior. The Green Tea looks kinda ugly, just like the medium green on the Saturn L-Series. But the interior is kinda different and more daring than any other car I've seen, with maybe the exception of the S-Series/ION transition last year. Just think about it, the old Quest was dead boring, and the new Quest is full of daring and boldness that no minivan before it had dared to go.
#334 of 2475 Update on the interior...
Jul 18, 2003 (6:27 pm)
I posted in message #330 how I was disappointed in the look/feel of the beige leather interior. Well, my wife went to look at it tonight, and she really liked it. I'm still not that crazy about it, but it's going to be her car, so her opinion is the one that counts.
I guess the bottom line is you need to go look at this car and make up your own mind. We've now got an SE on order -- Tea Green over beige, Dual DVD, Nav. Once we get it, maybe I'll post more thoughts about life with the Quest.
One final note -- these things do not seem to be flying off the lots. Most of the dealers around here (Baltimore, MD) seem to have two or three in stock in various trim levels, but none of them has told me they've actually sold one yet.