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Jul 20, 2005 (8:24 am)
Has anybody read this article on Edmunds?:
Who benefits from side and head airbags?
"For example, the 2004 Nissan Quest offered a head curtain airbag that covered only the first and second rows, even though it offered third-row seating. For 2005, the head curtain airbag in the Quest is large enough to protect all three rows."
Is this true? I was under the impression that the 2004 has curtain airbags for all three rows. See the owner's manual here (page 38 aka 1-22):
I bought a late-in-the-year 2004, so maybe the research I did online was actually referring to the 2005? I only have one kid using the third row now, in the center position, so I guess it's not the end of the world, but occasionally we will rearrange and have an adult back there. I specifically discussed this safety feature with my sales rep. As usual I knew more about the vehicle than they did... I will be disappointed if I was misled.
#1763 of 2475 Re: curtain airbags [ahightower]
Jul 20, 2005 (9:17 am)
That is a surprise. When we purchased our 05 we were also informed the side air bags protected the third row passengers, which I also assumed the 04’s did. I would also assume that the error is on the Edmunds article and not the manufacturer’s auto manual (since that should have been thoroughly reviewed…for legal purposes)
Even though side airbags are not designed to protect smaller children, I always thought they offered some protection from the broken glass and projectiles.
#1764 of 2475 Re: curtain airbags [ahightower]
Jul 20, 2005 (9:44 am)
I saved my 04 Quest detailed, color brochure. I am looking at the section on safety. It clearly states "there are standard roof mounted curtain side-impact supplemental air bags with front,second-and third-row outboard head protection."
They have a large color picture clearly showing this. I just checked the Nissan wesite. It is the same information and the same picture that is on the website for the 05's. Edmunds has clearly made a mistake in the article. How does one get them to correct their mistake>
#1765 of 2475 Re: curtain airbags [eyeblind]
Jul 20, 2005 (10:06 am)
I'm sure our moderator will read this very soon!...
#1766 of 2475 Re: curtain airbags [eyeblind]
Jul 20, 2005 (12:39 pm)
The best thing to do would be to use the Help link at the top of the page to provide that feedback. You could also stop by and leave a note for editor-in-chief Karl Brauer in Karl's Daily Log Book. Thanks!
Jul 20, 2005 (2:08 pm)
Read the long-term test here - the 04 Quest they tested:
"The Quest is merely an average handler," Erin wrote in her notes. "It felt predictable in the turns of state highways 17 and 152, but definitely no more so than a Sienna or Odyssey and less confident than a Grand Caravan.' [I really, really want to know what Erin's credentials are for evaluationg handling performance.]
Excellent visibility somewhat offset the rather dull driving experience, Erin noted in the logbook.
Karl had this to say: "I don't know if the steering is as good as either the Grand Caravan's or the Honda Odyssey's (the segment benchmarks in my opinion), but it certainly isn't loose or unresponsive." [Well, at least he admits he doesn't know something]
"Neither Stacie nor I was impressed by the front seats," Karl said. "They were flat and thinly padded. I wouldn't call them uncomfortable, but the seats in the Grand Caravan, Odyssey and Sienna look and feel far plusher. The lack of lateral bolstering and overall support is weak for a 21st century minivan."
Erin's major gripes had to do with the short seat bottom, which didn't support her thighs,..." [I dunno about new Caravans but we have a 1999 and the seat bolster is exactly the same length - it's just more rounded on the leading edge.]
"The second-row captain's chairs aren't especially well cushioned,..."
Karl said that he had no difficulty installing his children's safety seats in the second row, thanks to the spacious quarters and locking retractor seatbelts. "However, our van has only one power-operated sliding door (on the passenger side)," he noted. "This is OK, because the manual driver-side door is so easy to operate; in fact, it's so easy to operate that if you use too much muscle it rattles and bangs in the frame as it hits its stop point. I constantly had to tone down my effort level when opening it to avoid feeling like I might break it."
Our editors were divided on the practicality of our minivan's center-mounted instrumentation. Karl, a staunch opponent, commented, "I never have, and I never will, like to have my primary dials in the center of the dash. I don't care what the automakers try to claim about 'depth of field' and 'focal points' and 'safety' issues. It's a cost-cutting measure that allows the automakers to more easily switch between left- and right-hand drive markets, plain and simple. Also, what's with the tiny temp and fuel gauges? I can handle the temp gauge being small and obscure because most modern cars have very effective cooling systems, but fuel information is too important to stick in a tiny, obscure LCD display. This bothers me more than the central location of the entire gauge cluster (though the two factors contribute to the overall failure of the gauge design). The gauge design and the flat, unsupportive seats are my two biggest gripes with the Quest." [Question - in what countries with right-hand drive is the Quest sold - to prove his point? It's not sold in Japan or the UK, that I could find]
"Storage space in the cabin was a problem for both Karl and Erin. "It seems odd to run out of storage in a minivan," Erin said, "but the door bins and dash bins are small and there's no center console or folding tray. Our stuff was ultimately all over the floor."[Hmm, that bin that runs the ENTIRE width of the dash didn't help?]
From Karl's logbook: "The fold-down cupholders at the base of the driver seat are a poor substitute for a center console." [Yes, big fat consoles are great until you have to climb over one. The Quest solution makes a great deal more sense for daily use.]
And the summary:
"Unlike the Altima and G35, which could arguably be considered class benchmarks in each of their respective segments," Karl wrote in his notes, "the Quest is merely competitive rather than being class-leading in any one way (except maybe styling). The engine, suspension and interior storage are all good, but these are also good in the current Dodge, Honda and Toyota offerings. If it was also competitive in terms of ergonomics and seat comfort, it could be considered a class benchmark…but it's not (and the Toyota and Honda are). A solid effort by Nissan, but nothing to keep the competitors up at night (which the Altima and Infiniti G35 surely did)."
Almost every one who I've taken for a ride in this vehicle, or who has driven it, has one thing to say about the seats, handling, acceleration, and performance - "Wow!"
Roll down side windows and a split third seat are not something that everyone wants. But larger sliding doors - that would be a universally Good Thing, right? Don't see mention anywhere.
Can't comment on the build quality because I have an 05.
#1768 of 2475 Re: Car Writers
Jul 20, 2005 (5:32 pm)
Not sure if the reviewers actually ahve sat int he 2nd row of the Grand Caravan. The Stow n Go is a neat concept but it sacrifices the 2nd row seats. They are pretty narrow in my opinion esp. if you have to raise the headrests.
The basic problem with this review is it is simply a comparison between the Grand Caravan, Odyssey and Sienna and it does not reiview the Quest on its own merits. This is fine if you believe these 3 vans are the end-all, be-all. I guess in their book, Nissan should have simply copied one of those vans and called it a day.
This is why I put little weight in what any reviewer has to say about any car. Go out and test drive the cars you like and buy what fits your needs the best.
#1769 of 2475 Re: Front A/C blowing directly to ankle - uncomfortable [cirruss]
Jul 20, 2005 (5:35 pm)
To be honest I never put the setting on bi-level when I have the A/C on. Why blow cool air to the bottom of the van? Cold air will naturally "drop" to the bottom. Which is why the cold air comes out of the roof of the van in the rear seats? If it is uncomfortable, move the setting to face only. It will solve your problem and help cool your van quicker. Just a thought.
Jul 21, 2005 (3:23 pm)
Yeah right, the reviewers. If the Quest doesn't have comfy seats, I don't know who does. and they complained about LACK of storage spaces? Give me a break. To me the auto writers are a pretentious bunch who rarely writes anything relevant to the salary earning folks. One's better off going to to dealer lot and check out the vehicles for himself. Other than reliability, the consumers don't really need that much advice. After all who cares who beats who in what, if one can't tell the difference for himself or doesn't care? Buy what suits YOU the best.
Jul 22, 2005 (9:36 am)
It's a lot of fun playing with that mpg button. I keep resetting it to see what mpg I can for different driving. The other day I got it up to 60.8 mpg on the highway !...well ok it was a 2 mile downhill with the gear in neutral But still impressive. Who needs a hybrid? On flat highway our van gets consistently above 22 mpg. Play with it, it's fun!