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Nissan Quest, Van
Oct 14, 2004 (12:02 pm)
Just bought an 04 Quest S. Toyota and Honda were too expensive comparably equipped. Mazda and Kia were too small (no room behind the third row). Wife hated the Dodge interior. And Ford apparently stinks, according to the Edmunds comparison test, so I didn't bother driving one. Settled on Nissan based on price, features, and performance. I know it doesn't have the reputation like Honda and Toyota, but it is Japanese at least (built in MS, but still).
Most of the negative comments from the professional critics are about the styling, and I happen to like it. I'm too young to drive Grandma's Town & Country. It's different, and looks classy. I've got the base model and there is no cheap plastic crap a'la Avalanche, Aztek, Caravan, Xterra, etc. Even the door handles and mirrors are painted to match, so it looks expensive (which it is, to me!)
The other criticism from the professional critics is the amount of wind and road noise. I used to drive a GEO METRO, for crying out loud! It's all relative. This thing is amazingly quiet to me.
Base model S had everything we needed standard. SE and SL have some nifty features, but I couldn't justify the cost. Rebate and end-of-model-year pricing below invoice ($23,600) took care of the negative equity on the trade. I would have like to wait until I could afford an SE, but we just adopted 3 baby boys, so we had to move fast. The many standard features sealed the deal, especially the safety items. DSC, EBD, ABS, tire pressure monitors, and 3-row side curtain airbags all standard. I am impressed. Those side curtain airbags are part of a $2000 option package on the Sienna. Also I like the syle and the gadgets and the computer screen stuff. Also the performance aspect. If I have to buy a dang minivan at 25 years old, it better be a fast one. The reputation of the 3.5 V6 impressed me, and the test drive confirmed all the press hype. It handles, feels, and looks smaller than it is. Getting it in the garage was a reality check... This sucker is slightly taller, wider, and longer than all the competitors. But the tailgate will open without hitting the ceiling or garage door. Just had to organize some of my junk. The advantage to the size is that there is a ton of space. Even the 3rd row is not bad for grown-ups. And the side doors are really huge. Wife wanted 2nd row buckets (also an expensive upgrade on some of the competitors, standard on Quest), which means that with 3 kids, we'll have to use the 3rd row on every trip. So accessibility to the 3rd row was important. It has a wide opening and a nice tilting action on those buckets, so it's easy to load up the family. One kid in the middle row, two in the back, and a bucket seat to spare, for Grandma, or for one of us parental units to sit back there and tend to the young'uns. Or fold it down and put the doggy carrier in there.
As for things I had to give up buying the S rather than SL or SE:
-Fog lights. Not that I need them, but I really HATE empty holes where fog lights should be. Lame.
-Alloy wheels. At least the plastic covers are bolt-on, so they won't fly off when you hit a bump. And I can upgrade later if I find $1000 and nothing better to do with it. Yah right.
-Leather seats. Would be nice, but the cloth is decent quality. And they boys will be in baby seats and booster seats for 10 years anyway so what difference does it make to them?
-Power sliding doors. Might be nice on occasion, but the standard ones are light and easy to use, so that's just one less electric doodad to go haywire down the road.
-Navigation system. Nonsense. Learn to read a map.
-DVD Player. Nonsense. It's called "I spy". Or practice reading the map. I ain't raisin' no couch potatoes. If I'm wrong, I'll go aftermarket.
I thought I was too cool for a minivan, wanted an SUV, maybe a Suburban. But the price, gas mileage, and ease of entry with kids was a problem. Even the Tahoe, Expedition, Armada, Sequoia, etc., had tiny 3rd row seats and practically no storage space with them all up. So anyway, that's my story. Here's hoping it lasts a good long time.
#1364 of 2475 Re: just bought one [ahightower]
Oct 14, 2004 (2:11 pm)
i gotta ask...
"And they boys will be in baby seats and booster seats for 10 years anyway..."
ohhhh...i get it...first time parent, huh?
you'll learn soon enough...lol.
#1365 of 2475 Re: Just bought one...
Oct 14, 2004 (6:24 pm)
We've had a 2004 Quest S for 10 months/11,000 miles and overall its been a great vehicle, plus the upgrade to 60K/5 year warranty was a nice surprise (albeit for negative reasons I suppose, that the build quality wasn't up to expectations). We've really not had many problems with ours so far. However, I don't know what a Suburban gets in MPG but we've only averaged 16 MPG in all city driving, which is about all we do. Oddly our one long distance trip led to 27 MPG, which was a nice surprise. We live in a small city, combine trips, and so go a week between fillups, but the main downside of the 2004 Quest in my view is that its a gas guzzler.
Good luck with three babies, yikes its all we can do to manage a 4 and a 6 year old!
#1366 of 2475 RE:Newly purchased Quest [bowke28]
Oct 14, 2004 (9:51 pm)
hey bowke28 - It's the factory system, and I ordered the headphones from http://nissan.autowebaccessories.com after my dealer told me they'd be over $100 for the set from them. They also have other accessories, like waterproof seatcovers, running boards, and more. Good place to shop.
#1367 of 2475 Re: Extended base warranty [plashenick]
Oct 14, 2004 (9:55 pm)
This is my first Nissan so I opted for the warranty based solely on my experience with our 1996 Grand Caravan. Let's just say that after a rebuilt electrical system, three transmissions and a half dozen other major repairs to the Dodge, the warranty sure turned out to be a great investment.
#1368 of 2475 Re: just bought one [ahightower]
Oct 14, 2004 (10:00 pm)
Sounds like you're talking yourself into accepting that you got an "S" without all the bells and whistles that you thought were cool. That's fine! We're here for ya. We got an SE primarily because my wife discovered features on my chrysler 300M that she "couldn't live without" were only available on the SE. Things like the driver settings programmed to the remotes, the mirrors that tilt down when in reverse so you can see the curb, the Auto climate control system, etc. I agree that it would have been nice to save $6k, but it's sure going to make the next 6-7 years more comfortable having all that extra stuff.
#1369 of 2475 Warranty Article no longer available
Oct 14, 2004 (10:03 pm)
I just checked post 1327 and the link to the article doesn't work anymore. Seem the article has been taken down. I've owned our quest for only 5 days, and all of the paperwork I have says the warranty is 3/36. Guess it's time for me to call the dealer to check this out.
Thanks everyone for the information. I too bought an extended warranty, and I'm not sure I would have knowing the warranty was 5/60. I'll have to think if it's worth what I paid to go to 7/100
#1370 of 2475 regular vs premium
Oct 15, 2004 (6:09 am)
If this has been asked before, ignore me.
The manual says to use premium gas for best performance. Does anyone here really notice a difference in power/performance and/or fuel economy using premium instead of regular unleaded? At the current prices, I'd need to see a 12% increase in gas mileage in order to benefit from premium. Or I'd have to be really impressed with the performance.
#1371 of 2475 Premium Justification
Oct 15, 2004 (6:28 am)
Hi gang, I posted the article below in 2002 and here it is again. I figure there is a reason the engineers specify premium despite it being considered a negative selling point. I believe the owner's manual "recommends" 91. My local gas stations have 87, 89, 93. I never use the regular 87, occasionally use the 89 midgrade and mostly mix the 93/89 to get 91. I don't know if it makes a mpg difference but am interested in your opinions.
I thought the following article might be of interest. It's called Car Clinic by Brad Bergholdt, Knight Ridder Newspapers as was published August 31 2002 in my paper.
"The primary benefit of high-octane fuel is its anti-knock characteristic. In addition it may contain higher grade additives that help keep fuel injectors and intake valves clean.
Modern engines deliver far more power and fuel economy than their predecessors by employing a higher compression ratio and utilizing sophisticated combustion chamber designs and valve, fuel and ignition management systems.
Operating the engine on a lower octane fuel than specified will invite engine-damaging detonation and reduced power and lead to expensive repair bills. Premium fuel burns more slowly than less costly 87 or 89 grade. The air-fuel mixture burns at a lower temperature, providing a smooth and controlled flame front, lessening the chance of a hot and stressful explosion. Detonation can damage pistons, valves and head gaskets."