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Toyota Canada Access Pricing

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#129 of 158 by rivertown

Sep 29, 2003 (2:32 pm)

Mass, I read chunks of the grey market thread. Thanks, again. 'Market splitting' with lower manufacturer-to-retail-outlet prices seems to be part of the story, with some makes anyhow.
 
Now, I'm curious about invoice price and holdback rate differences between the US and Canada on 'Yodas
and about which makes have larger/smaller across the border contant dollar spreads.
 
I'd be a believer that Access pricing supports 'artificially' high 'Yoda prices with some hard data on invoice prices.

#130 of 158 FWIW, by landru2

Sep 29, 2003 (9:12 pm)

There are some major differences in the cost structure for Canadian vs. American dealers. FWIW, in the arena that I am most familiar with, Ford Canada's holdback is 2% of invoice while Edmunds says that holdback in the U.S. is 3% of MSRP. That's a big difference.

#131 of 158 landru by masspector

Sep 30, 2003 (4:07 am)

Do you think for some reason that it costs canadian dealers less to floorplan their cars than US dealers? You are right that is a big difference.
 
Not to get off topic, but I heard a news story on the radio the other day and this gray market stuff is getting into the spotlight again over prescription drugs. In the US there is a big deal about people, mostly seniors, getting drugs from canada. Alot of the same arguments are coming up about why the exact same drugs cost so much less in canada. The drug companies say it is because of canadian price controls, and that they can only make a profit in the US. The point was also made that the US is the only western country that allows drug manufacturers to advertise directly to the public. if these advertising costs were gone, then drug prices could be lowered in the US.

#132 of 158 Yup, holdback is an issue by rivertown

Sep 30, 2003 (7:07 am)

Landru, Edmunds says US Blue Oval dealers get 4.25% holdback. Another big difference between the two markets.
 
The lack of transparency makes this whole thing tough to figure.

#133 of 158 For those pining by landru2

Sep 30, 2003 (9:12 pm)

away for the "American" (non-Access) way of buying Toyotas:
 
sonjaab "What Brand has the Best Customer Satisfaction with its Car Dealerships?" Sep 30, 2003 7:57pm
 
Is this the set-up that Toyota dare not change?

#134 of 158 Well, by rivertown

Oct 01, 2003 (8:37 am)

'Yoda could fix the rep prob with
Access Pricing, ala Saturn
or
make their salesguys hang with the classy guys at the Caddy store.
 
http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pressrelease.asp?ID=2003067

#135 of 158 Final thought by woodytwo

Mar 30, 2004 (11:37 am)

I purchased a 04 sienna le 7 passenger awd at $1750 under msrp in Ontario. I checked several dealers across Canada and the access price for the same vehicle is $250 under msrp. This is a rip off with all due respect to those of you who think that access pricing is fair, good or otherwise. Btw the negotiating took all of 20 minutes.
 
Best advice to other Canadians in other provinces is try a mini vacation in Ontario and drive back with your sienna. Better price and you got some additional value.

#136 of 158 Totally agree it's price collusion by asaw

Apr 21, 2004 (12:57 pm)

I can't imagine why anybody would think it's not when you can get the Sienna for so much cheaper in Ontario, while we folks here in BC can't.
 
You know, if Alberta does not have Access pricing, I really won't mind driving there from Vancouver to purchase myself a nice Sienna LE. Ontario is a bit too far for me.

#137 of 158 Dealer invoice & holdback by pat3

Apr 21, 2004 (1:35 pm)

Could someone tell me where I could get this information for Canadian dealerships...

#138 of 158 Re: Dealer invoice & holdback by Car_man HOST

Apr 21, 2004 (3:37 pm)

Hi pat3. You should be able to find out more information on Canadian dealer invoice pricing in the following discussions:
 
guizmo "Canadian Car Buying (for Canadian Consumers)" Feb 4, 1998 6:10pm
 
luck11 "CANADIAN INVOICE PRICES" Oct 31, 2001 10:11am
 
Equestr99 "Canadian Invoice Price" Aug 14, 1998 5:46pm
 
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