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#35 of 1520 AHHHHHHHHHHH by jamessr Feb 12, 2003 (4:53 pm)
Riddle me this then. Where does Infiniti come from? Where does Lexus come from? Where does Acura come from? Yes tis true a Mercedes with Chrysler badging but how many other Automakers have made not of there own and worked well? Chrysler says elegant, sophisticated, eccentric. Put it together with German engineering and you have an awesome combo of German engineering with American inginuity. And for those who doubt first time out Auto's. What about the Jeep Liberty
#36 of 1520 by logic1 Feb 12, 2003 (6:22 pm)
You are trying so hard to be creative I really do not know what point you are trying to make.   However, you cannot say that Chrysler is not of Daimler (the parent of Mercedes). Daimler and Chrysler merged years ago.   The Crossfire was designed by designers in Auburn Hills, MI. But to save money making it, Daimler used mainly existing Mercedes platform components. Superficially, it looks unlike any MB. But underneath what you see, it will pretty much be an MB, for better or worse.    There really is no riddle about it.
#37 of 1520 Creative! by jamessr Feb 13, 2003 (2:49 pm)
Okay let's keep it simple It's a good looking design and it's new.
#38 of 1520 And it is $30K+, that a V6 Accord can eat for lunch. by kevin111 Feb 17, 2003 (2:18 pm)
The Crossfire is a thing of beauty, with a nice exterior and interior design.   With that said:   215 hp, for 18" front wheels and 19" rear wheels is a pretty inadequate. If this car can break 0-60, in under 8 seconds, I would be impressed. That is a great deal of inertia to overcome with wheels that big.   If the car was priced in the low $20ks, I could see it, but not for +$30K without a little more power under the hood!   A V6 Camry right now will be able to give it a run for its money! They are planning to upgrade the power of the V6 Camry next year anyway.
#39 of 1520 by logic1 Feb 17, 2003 (3:16 pm)
To be sure if I understand you correctly, your position is that even for a limited run car, the only thing the market wants is to be able to win the stop light to stop light straight line drag race?   And interior appointments, ride, handling, and appearance count for nothing?
#40 of 1520 logic by jwilson1 Feb 17, 2003 (5:10 pm)
your own is suspect. That isn't at all what kevin said -- he's been making the point that many of the posters have: that a car that looks fast and costs fast ought to be fast.   To answer your question: of course everything on the car counts for something and is important. The new Z, for example, is short on interior appointments and materials, according to many reviewers. But because it goes great and has admirable style (even a little edgy), almost all is forgiven.   I wonder if the reviews would say the same thing if the Z lost in performance (at stoplights or on mountain roads) to (as kevin says) a Camry... or if that's harsh try a Maxima or Accord.   And just so this doesn't come off as an attack on an interesting, if unproven, new car: there will be some -- maybe many -- buyers who won't care about the car's power or its performance and will buy it strictly on looks. And if that's all it has the Crossfire will be known forever as a 'chick' car, and that's alright, too, but don't expect to get a lot of applause for the car from the mostly male audience at Edmunds if it won't do sub-6 0-60 or .90 on the skid pad or 115' or shorter braking. That's pretty much entry level for a +$30k car that trades on a "performance" image.   JW
#41 of 1520 by logic1 Feb 17, 2003 (6:01 pm)
So the bright guys at Edmunds prefer either a bunch of Z clones or a coupe with great looks and appointments that is unfortunately too expensive for any of them to buy. Explains a lot I guess.   But it sure as heck does not caste my logic into any sort of suspicion.
#42 of 1520 0 - 60 by xa4 Feb 18, 2003 (7:27 am)
To say that it won't be able to do 0-60 in less than 8 seconds is silly. Going from 17" wheels to 18" and 19" wheels will sap a couple of horsepower at most. It's not going to add 2 seconds to acceleration times.   A 1999 Z3 at 2988 lbs with a paltry 170 hp makes the sprint to 60 in 6.7 seconds. The Crossfire with 26% more power and torque should hit 60 in under 6.0.   It'll be quick and will get quicker incrementally to keep you all interested for years.
#43 of 1520 good comment xa4 by jamessr Feb 18, 2003 (9:55 am)
That is the whole idea coming from Chrysler. Up until recently hardly anybody had any buzz talk about Chrysler and now we all are salivating wondering and waiting to see whats going to happen next.
#44 of 1520 AutoWeek by jwilson1 Feb 19, 2003 (12:20 pm)
anticipates about 6 sec. 0-60.   If so, given the engine, perhaps there was some other gearing compromise.   JW

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