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#1797 of 11868
hydroholland by mdogra
Dec 19, 2003 (3:01 pm)
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Didn't get nice deal at my city. Try the one in Muskegon and then in Kalamazoo. Have heard that Dearborn is also nice with deals. Good Luck and thanks.
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ggillum by kramer_lab
Dec 20, 2003 (5:14 am)
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Actually, I used the price you paid at Crest Honda in Nashville for your EX-L that you previously posted ($28,860) as the basis for my offer to Reddell Honda. They sold me an EX-L for the exact same price. Thanks to you and everyone else who posts details of their purchase. It really helps when negotiating with a dealer to know what others are paying. By the way, Reddell Honda in Murfreesboro, TN was great to deal with.
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I'll second that. by ggillum
Dec 20, 2003 (7:25 am)
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Thanks to this board for all the money I saved. I'd have paid sticker for a vehicle with a bunch of unwanted, full price options if not for the postings here!
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Ggillum by steve_ HOST
Dec 20, 2003 (4:13 pm)
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Everyone gets a warm glow around here when we read posts like yours! (Esp. Edmunds people!).
 
Congrats on the new Pilot.
 
Steve, Host
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Any good deals in NJ by suni2
Dec 20, 2003 (6:21 pm)
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Anybody got a good deal in Nj for EX-L?
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DVD Headrest Viewing from 3rd Row by bconsi
Dec 20, 2003 (7:16 pm)
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Sysadmin1: Just wondering what your opinion is regarding the viewing experience from the 3rd row with the headrest monitors. We have four little ones who will be sitting two in each row, and we are looking for a solution. We also have an Odyssey, so we'd like to get a system that is easily transferrable between vehicles if possible -- hopefully without too many wires strung throughout.
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Purchased EXL in Indy by bconsi
Dec 20, 2003 (7:22 pm)
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We purchased a Sage Brush Pearl EXL from Honda West in Indianapolis last week. Paid $29,101 before trade. They kindly threw in rear mud guards. This morning I installed cross bars, running boards, and cargo tray that I ordered from Handa.
 
The experience with Honda West has been very positive so far.
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Purchased Pilot in SoCal on Dec 19, 2003 by plewiii
Dec 21, 2003 (12:21 am)
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Purchased white 04 EX-L in Costa Mesa on Friday, Dec 19:
$29200 (includes $490 destination fee)
$31898 (includes dest fee, lic and tax)
 
I consider it a fair price, but I wished I waited 24 hours because I got a email from the dealer in Harbor City for a lower price. The "weekend special" runs from Dec 19 - 22. Here are Harbor City's prices:
04 LX: $25442
04 EX: $27572
04 EX-L: $28860
04 EX-L with NavSys: $30658
04 EX-L with DVD: $30208
 
I could have saved another $340. Oh well!! I hope somebody can take advantage of the great deal. If you want the email ad, let me know.
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Steve Host "required fee" by terumi1
Dec 21, 2003 (9:39 am)
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The whole play on words that they use is that that, "Dealer Fee", is supposedly something that they HAVE to charge. Well, it might well be.
 
But the truth of the matter is, if taking their words as truth, that they only can charge you whatever fee in this "Dealer fee", that they have registered with the state. They could have registered a Dealer Fee of $100.00 with the state. And that is what they would have to charge you. No more, no less.
 
And that is what clued me in on the game. Because they make this, "dealer fee", sound like something that the state of Florida has set as a fixed price to all the dealers in the state. And it was only when I called around that I found out otherwise. That one dealer charges $250.00 for this dealer fee. Another charged $375.00. And as all the dealers had the same speel on the requirement of this charge by the state, I came to the conclusion that, again, they have to charge you what they have registered. No more, no less. They could have registered $100.00 with the state.
 
Whether the, "Dealer Fee", and their explanation is actually true or not, heck, who's to know.
 
In the end, all dealers were charging it in my area. All said it would not be taken off as it is a required charge. But, all also admitted it was a profit center for the dealer.
 
I liken this fee to the new fee that auto garages are charging. They have a $20.00 miscellaneous fee that they charge you now. It is such a load of crap. It is what they say they need to charge you for liquid disposal (oil, radiator fluid, etc..), shop rags, etc...
 
What a crock. Because the shops didn't lower their rates or parts prices when they decided to separate this charge. Nope. They just try to add it on top.
 
The last two times I have gotten work done, I was able to get this charge removed. But, as the public gets more used to seeing this charge, and the shops more and more psychologically get away from the reality of the charge being a ripoff, to the point where they think they should really be charging this extra, they probably won't take it off.
 
I liken the, "Dealer Fee", to the miscellenous shop fee I described above. Same bs.
 
Bottom line, is the bottom line. Same as you said. Not getting confused over the shell game that the dealer gets you into to try to confuse you on what that bottom line target price was originally.
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sysadmin1 Headrests and bconsi 3rd row view by terumi1
Dec 21, 2003 (11:22 am)
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Well, in a strange twist of fate, I wrenched out the wallet, and switched to the headrests. Why did I do that? Well, I just wasnt really jazzed about the prospect of cutting that headliner. Third row viewing wont be what it would have had I had the 10.4 inch or 9 inch monitor mounted on the ceiling.
 
bconsi wanted to know about this. To answer your question, bconsi, no, I dont think you will be able to view the headrest screen comfortably from the 3rd row. They might have to lean up. The salesman, as a selling point of the ceiling mount, talked about the third row viewing and how good it would be with a 10.4" or 9" screen. He said the 7", which is what the headrest monitors come with, are too small.
 
If you have the money, bconsi, the best....I mean THE BEST...way to go, would be headrest monitors in all seats. hahaha...I know, a lot of money. That's why I prefaced it with, "if you have the money". And ulitmately, in switching to the headrest monitors, I had to lose the tv tuner to keep the price the same. Read on.
 
So headrests vs. ceiling mounts comes down to a judgement call on the buyers part. 2 children or less, and the headrests have the advantage of one child being able to watch a movie, while the other one plays videos. Or one can watch tv (if you have a tv tuner). And so on. As long as there is are separate video sorces, each can flip the screen to what they want to watch. So, more options for the multiple children scenario, as each can watch what they want.
 
The other plus is that the headrests are a much cleaner installation on your new pilot (mine is now a month old), and for me, I wasnt really excited about cutting the headliner, for resale. Because with the headrests, you pop out the headrests monitor, send it back to the company (for a fee), and they send you a new headrest for the new car you have bought. You put the old headrest monitors back in your Pilot, and sell the car untouched and factory fresh.
 
Pluses of the headrest sytem:
 
-cleaner...more of a, "factory" look
 
-easier and less invasive to your car to install and uninstall
 
-better quality screen (the brand, "epic", that I am buying is a third generation screen. Much nicer than the audiovox one I was going to get.)
 
-more video source switching options. Providing you have the multiple video sources. If you just have a dvd player, then you only will have one video source and one screen on the ceiling would be fine. And you would be able to have third row viewing (9 inch screen or larger). But if you are planning on gaming, or having a tv tuner, or both, resulting in multiple video sources, multiple screens will allow you to switch around on video sources so one kid can do one thing, and another another.
 
Drawbacks of the headrest monitors
 
-more money
 
-third row seating viewing difficult
 
-7 inch screen is the largest offered, although supposedly a 9 inch screen is going to be offered in the near future.
 
-minor cutting will be required somewhere for the dvd player. If you buy the all in one audiovox one that I was going to do, then you wouldnt have to cut anywhere for the dvd player. But you would have to cut your headliner. I think the cutting for the dvd player is less invasive overall.
 
The dealer was very sincerely pro headrest monitors. Sincere as in he wasnt trying to make more money (price ended up being the same, but now didnt have the tv tuner. Adding the tv tuner would have been an extra 300-400, hence, the higher price for the headrest systems, you have to pay for everything ala carte. They dont come as an all in one package), he really thought the headrests were a better monitor, a much much cleaner installation with a 100% factory look (the Epic brand, as Im sure the other ones do, send you headrests that match your car EXCTLY in style and color), and the possibility of video source switching.
 
So, if you have the money, I think that the more headrest screens you put in, the better! That way, the kids arent fighting.
 
The price, as I said, ended up being the same. The all - in - one audiovox unit that mounts on the ceiling with a 9" screen, installed and with tax (the out the door price), was $2050.00 And that came with EVERTHING.
 
-two IR headsets
-tv tuner
-9 inch monitor
-fm modulator (see my discussion on aux audio adapters with sysadmin1. I swapped this out for an aux audio adapter and will not be using the fm modulator)
-dvd player
 
And I added a gaming wire for future use (L/R audio and video cables to be stored under the seat).
 
The Epic, as I said, is ala carte. So I have the same things above, less the tv tuner. So no tv capability. For $2050. It can be added in the future, for a price of course! And the headsets that I purchased with the Epic headrest monitors are much much better. They are not IR. They are RF. So you dont have to hold your head just so for the headset to pick up the IR signal. And it isnt necessary to have IR repeaters drilled throughout the car to receive the infrared signal. The RF is a radio frequency. So is not a line-of-sight thing. Go wherever and listen uninterrupted.
 
Oh, btw, I am putting the dvd player at the bottom of the radio stack. I have a navi system, so no room to mount the dvd player in the radio stack. It is in that cubbyhole at the bottom. But that trim piece that they will be cutting into, is replaceable. So if you replace the trim piece, and re-install the original headrests, your car in now factory, again. If you dont replace that cubbyhole trim piece, the holes will be on the top of the cubbyhole, and nobody will see them anyway.
 
DVD placement is a whole nother issue. And if anyone has any better suggestions, I am open. I have a navi system, as I said, so mounting it in the radio stack is not an option. And mounting it under the passenger seat isnt an option because of the navi computer under the seat. The drawback of putting it in that cubbyhole at the bottom of the radio stack is that my wife will lose most/all of that space, and, the cutting required for mounting and running the wires. Again, that piece is replaceable. So it comes down to the lost space. The wife wasnt real jazzed about that. But she did like the convience of putting the dvd disk in.
 
Sysadmin1, you keep saying RES. What does RES mean?
 
In the end, it is really a judgement call. Each system has its plus and minus. There is no clear cut.
 
It comes down to 2 systems. Either the all in one on the ceiling, or the headrests. Hopefully, the windy explanation(s) offered above will highlight some of the issues to consider in the choices.

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