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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Jun 15, 2009 9:38 am) |
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Can someone help me make some sense out of these numbers? For reference, I'm looking at a 2009 EX-L 4WD (no RES) in Seattle area. Edmunds claims invoice is: $31,969 TrueCar.com claims factory invoice is: $33,031 TrueCar.com claims dealer cost is: $30,472 Dealer claims cost is: $32,738 The dealer has already offer the $1500 marketing support on top of the quote, but I'd like some evidence that his actual cost is much lower so I can bargin, but I don't know which number is the real dealer cost. The closest I came to making sense of it is: (Edmunds Invoice price) - (Marketing support) = (TrueCar's actual dealer cost) Can someone help me break down Edmunds vs TrueCar DealerCost vs TrueCar FactoryInvoice? On top of this, i don't see how anyone is getting this car for less than $30,469 as all numbers above point to the dealer losing money on the sale below that price. Dealers like having the math proven to them, so if I should be using a different number please let me know. Thanks!
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Replying to: winterminute99 (Jun 15, 2009 6:27 pm) holdback is 2% of MSRP (excluding destination) the base MSRP is $35296. Holdback increases to 3% if the vehicle has been on the dealer lot over 90 days. 2% = $705.92 3% = $1058.88 You have the factory to dealer incentive at $1500 You *may* be able to get lower than these - depending on what you believe on these boards and real unpublished dealer quota incentives - best bet - wait to the last week of the month - have multiple dealers bid for your business - this will always net the lowest price in your area.
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Replying to: cb35 (Jun 15, 2009 7:58 pm) For those quickly skimming posts, I'll do the math and summerize for the forum: The rock bottom dealer cost (with $0.00 profit for the dealer) for a 2009 EX-L (no RES) is: $30,433 (on lot 90 days or less) $30,081 (on lot 90 days or more) For what it's worth, ConsumerReports says to add 2%-4% (to the above number) for dealer profit as a fair price for all parties. Not sure how the boards feel about that.
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Replying to: winterminute99 (Jun 15, 2009 8:38 pm) I've been offered $30,500 on 2009 Pilot 4WD EX-L w/ no RES by many dealers in Philly/Jersey/MD. Wait til month end/July 4th sales and get the vehicle around $29,500 or less. It also seems the incentives will update for the better (or worse) around 7/7/09. Remember that in Year 2 (which is now for the 2009 model) Kelley Blue Book drops the resale value to 56% of the MSRP. The above vehicle has resale value of $19,775 as soon as it leaves the lot. This is most likely assuming 12,000 miles/yr, but still drops considerably. Good Luck. |
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Replying to: winterminute99 (Jun 15, 2009 8:38 pm) Other dealer profit area: Dealer admin fee, dealers in some states charge as high as 600 to 700 dollars. Other Honda incentive program for dealers that we don't know, such as dealers meet sales target/quota, which is sliding scale cash back. I think urban large dealerships have the advantage on this as they will sell more cars. It is like chain supermarkets always have lower food cost than the neighborhood stores. Whether dealer is willing to dig into that is based on degree of urgency. |
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What do you think of $33,000 (not including TTL) for a 09 AWD Touring with navi and res, plus cargo mats, running boards, towing packing and vent shades with 12,000 miles??? Price includes 100,000 mile warranty. We were originally looking at EX-Ls, but found this in our hard-to-find color choice (mocha). Would love some opinions on if this is a good deal..... |
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I'd like to purchase a 2010 FWD Touring with Nav and Res this week in the Chicago area. Edmunds TMV shows $40,619 on an MSRP of $40,955, but it does not show the Invoice Price (it says N/A). Does anyone know the Invoice Price on this vehicle? Another post mentioned a recent offer on the 2010's in Washington DC for USAA members of $300 under invoice, so I'd like to know the true invoice. What would be a good deal, knowing that dealers aren't ready to "deal" this early for the '10's?
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Replying to: acadia2009 (Jun 16, 2009 1:33 pm) I will guess the invoice for $40,995 is around $37,495 based on the 2 of 2010 pricing below... 4dr Front-wheel Drive Touring w/Navi $37,045 $33,550 (diff 3,495) 4dr 4x4 Touring w/Navi $38,645 $34,996 (diff 3,649) * Destination Charge: $710 |
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Replying to: chi7 (Jun 11, 2009 3:49 am) They had 3 more in stock as of last week. Go thru the Internet and request a quote from the delaership. |
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