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Replying to: newyearnewcar (May 16, 2009 1:41 pm) In PA you can buy it for $27.1k or less. I paid less than that for mine. With respect to which is a good deal - don't know much about the Odyssey but there are a lot of them sitting on dealer lots. If you aren't in a hurry wait until the '10s come out. The '09 Pilots came out on May 22 of last year. The dealers say that the '10s won't be out until November but the dealers are liars. They are in the business of selling vehicles at overinflated prices based on how much they can extract from unwitting buyers. Aren't you outraged that a single mother who holds two jobs and has no experience in negotiation is forced to pay $2000 more than an affluent businessman who knows how to research and negotiate (for the same vehicle)? Of course it's outrageous, but this is their business - ripping off the less informed or financially capable. Now their business model doesn't work anymore (see GM and Chrysler's shutting down of thousands of dealerships). The stupid (young) Honda salesmen think that this means that somehow they are going to get more business. What they don't understand is that the consumer, in general, has too many cars, too much debt, and that the car business is going to just continue to weaken across the board. A model that requires ripping people off eventually must die - that's what we are seeing right now. Would not surprise me if the Pilot '10s were out in July. It's worth the wait, since there will be a huge glut of Pilots out there, especially EX-Ls. Good luck. |
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I live in Virginia and found a 2009 4WD Touring with Navi for 32,915 (35,259.05 out the door). Looking at the boards, it appears to be a good price, but any input is appreciated. Thanks |
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Replying to: kellysim (May 16, 2009 6:02 pm) reminder - those that are quoting invoice prices - there is a $1500 factory to dealer incentive going on through june 30th so subtract that from the invoice. Do your quotes include the $670 destination charge? I certainly wouldn't pay anything above invoice less $1500 + destination. I have a feeling dealers will be happy to sell the car and keep the holdback 2% + whatever monthly incentives they receive. I don't think in this market dealers can support these inflated documentation fees - know the DMV fees before you go you negotiate the price. Also agree to keep the trade in seperate - used car values are difficult to pinpoint - check kbb.com, ebay.com, other classified ads for your car and try to guage the market rate - you won't get that but something near that is fair for both.
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Replying to: cb35 (May 16, 2009 10:00 pm) The '09 EXLs will drop some more. When you say Honda won't provide any more dealer incentive, how exactly do you think these '09 EXLs are going to move out the door? By magic? The $1500 incentive isn't getting them anywhere on the EXLs. There is huge inventory on those.
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Replying to: kellysim (May 16, 2009 6:02 pm)
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Replying to: kellysim (May 16, 2009 6:02 pm) 30,000 msrp 27,000 invoice 1,500 incentive 600 holdback What price in this example is a good deal?
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Replying to: newyearnewcar (May 16, 2009 1:41 pm) The Ody is lower and longer. That makes the minivan more convenient (load/unload everything) and more space for passenger / cargo. They both have 3.5L engine and the MPG isn't a big difference. I got the 4x4 Pilot so the AWD system will have 1 MPG less than the FWD. However the AWD is great for New England harsh winter. The steering in the Pilot feels heavier (that make the driver feels this is heavier car) in low speed than the Odyssey, but quieter than the Ody in driving, softer over bumps/holes, better handling due Pilot is about 1 foot shorter than Ody. |
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Replying to: carsalesman2 (May 17, 2009 3:10 am) I maintain that it is outrageous that car salesmen target single women and minorities for inflating their pricing. What is your justification for charging a single, woman with kids $2000 more than a well-heeled businessman? The funny thing is, you actually believe that this is the right way to do business. It's not. Essentially car salesmen are the lowest form of salesperson on earth. Today, no self-respecting salesperson would ever get involved in selling cars. Besides the fact that there is no money in the business, only the lowest of low integrity people (i.e. they have no integrity) get into this business.
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