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Re: Ex-L 09 Lease - Bank, Doc and other fees to negotiate [kyfdx] by dannyhashovav
Nov 25, 2008 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 25, 2008 1:20 pm)

Interesting...Thanks kyfdx for your input. here is a deal i was just quoted on EXL AWD no RES:
 
Selling Price: $30,163 (well below invoice)
Residual: $18,291 (at 51%)
MSRP: $35,865 (note that the destination of $670 is already included here)
Term: 36 months
 
Now the dealer starts throwing all the fees in. Of course I can have a choice of paying these upfront or roll into my Selling Price to come up with new, higher lease pmt and $0 down.
 
Registration (NY): $133 (standard fee, cant argue about)
Bank: $595 (seems cant get away from it either)
Destination $670 (completely weird and outrageous)
Doc: $199 ( advertised as the lowest doc fees in Northeast - yeah right )
Total Fees: $1,597 without the 1st month payment.
New selling price: $31,760
the lease on that number is: $429/month before tax
 
I think if they could eliminate the Destination and Doc fees it would make a very attractive lease at $404 before tax.
 
any thoughts?
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Re: Ex-L 09 Lease - Bank, Doc and other fees to negotiate [dannyhashovav] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 25, 2008 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: dannyhashovav (Nov 25, 2008 1:51 pm)

Adding the destination fee on to the selling price is just a weak way to do things... What else on the Monroney sticker isn't included in the price?
 
Bank/acquisition fee? Yeah.. everyone gets that one..
 
Doc fee? More "hidden" profit..
 
But, all that stated, you have to focus on the total price.
 
It looks like the actual price of the car is just over $32,000...(selling + destination + doc). Is that a good price for a Pilot with an MSRP of $35,865? Beats me.. check back to see what everyone else has paid. If you can't get anyone lower, then you'll know you are near the bottom..
 
The lease program is decent.... If you can get $429/mo.+tax, with only the first payment down, that isn't too bad... BUT, lower is always better!
 
Good luck,
kyfdx
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Re: 2009 Touring [jwalls] by cjofpa
Nov 26, 2008 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: jwalls (Nov 24, 2008 6:38 pm)

That is a good price. I offered 500 under invoice and they would not budge from invoice. I did get 15% off accessories. Try that.
I got: Wheel Locks, Roof Crossbar, Chrome Side Steps, All Season Floor Mats, Cargo Dividers, Cargo Tray, Remote Start, Cargo Net, Cargo Cover Interior, Total Accessories $1,670.25, Installation $299.63.
 Subtotal $37,494.88
Honda Care Warrenty 96 / 120K $1,195.00
 Undercoating $570.00.
I Know it seems like a lot of stuff by hey 15% off. I got my moneys worth.
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Re: 2009 Touring [cjofpa] by jwalls
Nov 26, 2008 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: cjofpa (Nov 26, 2008 11:45 am)

So far, no dealer will throw in the lighted running boards for the $35,038.00 price. One dealer told me I should jump on that price regardless of running boards and that there was no way he could match the price.
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EX-L with RES, AWD by fornov
Nov 26, 2008 (9:33 pm)
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Had an offer from a dealer today on the above model - $33,872 + fees. That was the number on the silly red tag on the RVM. I haven't heard what his "fees" are yet, but I suppose they're similar to the ones I've read about on here. They better not be including the destination charge!
 
Anyway, this was his first offer, and the rep and the sales manager even said things like, "If you have something else in mind, let us know." Yeah, I have something else in mind - a lower price!
 
They showed me the 1.9% for 36 months, and the 3.9% for 48 or 60 months. What they wouldn't agree on was discounting the vehicle more if we paid cash instead of financing. I would think they would be interested in a $30K+ check, but apparently not...
 
If I pay cash, do I at least get out of the "bank fee"? Where do I go from here? It seems like they have room to move, based on the first offer, and things they said in our first meeting. I suppose I need to find out how much these fees are going to cost.
 
The other problem I have is that all the dealers around here want to appraise my trade-in before they discuss offers for the vehicle I'm interested in. I want to focus on one thing at a time, but they refuse to do it that way. I know this is a trick they use to make you think you're getting a better deal than you really are, but how do I combat it? This is very frustrating. If anyone has any pointers or tips on this, I would thank you very much for that.
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Re: EX-L with RES, AWD [fornov] by hanzero
Nov 26, 2008 (10:14 pm)
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Replying to: fornov (Nov 26, 2008 9:33 pm)

They would not give you the trade-in value alone because their concern is to sell a car. Eventually, they will give you a ridiculous number on your car and then say, let's forget about your car.. you buy a car first with whatever you have and then you sell the car yourself to make additional down payment to reduce your monthly payment. A typical senario..
 
In fact, you should not have mentioned a trade-in. You reach a deal on the price of the new car and then talk about trade-in and financing.
 
Good luck!
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Re: EX-L with RES, AWD [hanzero] by fornov
Nov 27, 2008 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: hanzero (Nov 26, 2008 10:14 pm)

I really despise this practice. Even if I don't mention the trade-in, it's usually pretty obvious when my wife and I roll into the dealership with our 3.5 year old SUV, looking at new SUV's.
 
I guess when I call him back, I'll say let's figure out the price on the Pilot first, and then dicuss the trade-in? Is it too late for that, the cat's already out of the bag? Maybe I need to start from scratch with another salesperson? They probably won't do that. Ah, frustrating.
 
One time, I even had a salesman tell me that they could offer another $1000 off on a vehicle if I didn't have a trade-in. If I was trading in my vehicle, then I couldn't get that $1000. He even admitted it was a marketing ploy.
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Quote on EX-L with RES by lammchop
Nov 28, 2008 (11:29 am)
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I just received a quote on a 2009 Pilot EX-L with RES at $33,509 not including destination fees. How does this quote sound? It's the first quote and I'm going to negotiate more. I curious to know what prices others are seeing.
 
Thanks
#12103 of 13789
Re: Quote on EX-L with RES [lammchop] by lammchop
Nov 28, 2008 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: lammchop (Nov 28, 2008 11:29 am)

I forgot to mention this is AWD.
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2009 Touring 4wd by jwalls
Nov 29, 2008 (9:12 am)
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After a ton of haggling, the best I can do on a 2009 Touring 4wd with nav but no RES, with the lighted running boards is $35,900.00 (plus tax, lic...).
 
Any thoughts out there ?
 
Jim

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