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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [mitch65] by fred25
Oct 15, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: mitch65 (Oct 14, 2008 1:49 pm)

Mitch65:
 
It is really difficult to make an offer on a vehicle that you have not seen or test driven.
 
 My First reaction would be why are they not answering YOUR questions - I would really push hard to have MY questions answered first.
 
In addition I would ask them outright what they want for this vehicle - let them make the first offer not YOU. Plus ask them for the VIN number so that you can check it.
 
Then make an appointment to inspect( make sure the VIN number they gave you matches the one on the vehicle) and test drive the vehicle -
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [bigdadi118] by mitch65
Oct 15, 2008 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Oct 14, 2008 2:47 pm)

Of course, I'm a little suspicious, but if it's new, what could be wrong with it? Unless it has like a hundred miles on it.
I think that was the one I saw too on eBay. But as I said, they did say they have a new one in stock, and it's on their inventory on their website.
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [fred25] by mitch65
Oct 15, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: fred25 (Oct 15, 2008 6:57 am)

I'm not surprised that they don't answer my questions directly. But sadly, that's what I expect from them. Either I play email tag with them and not get my questions answered directly, or I make a trip to see them.
I could ask them what they want or the car, but what difference would that make? It would be a pie in the sky number that I would have to bring down by several thousand I'm sure. That's why I want to know what would be a fair price, in the end. And hopefully, it does exist and is new. Actually on their website inventory, they allow you to print out the specs on the car, and even shows the VIN#. So how do I go about checking out the VIN# ?
Thanks.
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [mitch65] by bigdadi118
Oct 15, 2008 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: mitch65 (Oct 15, 2008 7:56 am)

48,631 MILES was listed. Doesn't look like NEW to me.
 
you can use ebay cheaper rate to check the VIN# to see whether registered before.
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [bigdadi118] by mitch65
Oct 15, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Oct 15, 2008 9:37 am)

I went back to ebay and looked at the vehicle again. The VIN # listed matches the one on the dealers website, so I'm confident this vehicle exists. However, I checked the vehicle history report on eBay and saw that there was at least 8,000 mile on the car! And it had already been registered.
Can they still call this new? Anyway, it looks like no deal for me.
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [mitch65] by scottgbwi
Oct 15, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: mitch65 (Oct 15, 2008 12:32 pm)

I think if it's a "DEMO" car they can list it as new.
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [scottgbwi] by bigdadi118
Oct 15, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: scottgbwi (Oct 15, 2008 12:47 pm)

"Demo" is NOT registered. Once it's registered, it is SOLD & USED, IMHO.
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [scottgbwi] by mitch65
Oct 16, 2008 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: scottgbwi (Oct 15, 2008 12:47 pm)

Here is their response to my email. Do intelligent people work there?
 
Hi
 
I believe that this particular Pilot had about 52k miles. We only provide VIN's to vehicles when it is purchased. We have a wharehouse in Brooklyn and found alot of brand new vehicles. Yes, it is a brand new vehicle. We have had alot of calls on this particular Pilot, when can you make it into our showroom and go over your options?
 
Kimberly
Internet Specialist
718-xxx-xxxx
 
Can you tell me the miles on the NEW 2005 Pilot.
Can you also tell me the VIN# ?
And why do you still have a 2005 model. Is it really new?
Is there anything unusual about it?
Thanks.
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [mitch65] by fred25
Oct 16, 2008 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: mitch65 (Oct 15, 2008 8:00 am)

Mitch 65
 
You can check out the VIN by doing a car fax -
 
Second when you and I speak of new vehicle it should have less that 25 miles.
 
when the dealer speaks of NEW they are saying its new to THEIR inventory and it may have hundreds of miles on it. So be careful.
 
Third the reason I do not like to throw out numbers first is that the dealer has a price he wants to move the vehicle - since this is a 2005, IMO you should start with 23 - 25 K. you may also want to see what other 2005's are selling for at other dealers . I suggest you go to:
 DealersOverstock.com, Autotrader.com. edmunds.com, carsdirect.com .
 
Hope this helps you -
 
FRED
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Re: NEW 2005 Pilot EX-L w/Nav What should I offer? [mitch65] by fishhoppa
Oct 16, 2008 (10:11 pm)
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Replying to: mitch65 (Oct 16, 2008 6:20 pm)

The KBB suggested retail for an excellent condition Pilot was something like ~$24k, just like earlier posts. The reality is, who still pays full suggested retail? the dealer can certainly ask for it. The trade in value is only worth ~$14k and that's in the good to excellent range - how many dealers are even willing to offer that for the trade? especially in this market.
 
IMO go with a much lower offer and definitely research what the going rates are for a used one --- because anyway you look at it, it will instantly become a 4 year old used vehicle as soon as you drive it off the lot. Also the part of the dealer not willing to provide a VIN until you buy just does not sound right.
 
Lotsa of luck to you!

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