Last post on Dec 09, 2013 at 3:58 PM
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Honda Pilot, Electrical, Engine, Steering, SUV
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#3293 of 3439 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [rodut]
Jan 05, 2011 (1:46 pm)
This makes sence.
Since I was looking at Trailer Blazers Ext, my brother-in-law talked to an owner of one and they told them that all of a sudden the breaks lock up and send them into the ditch without warning or senor light. So since a system like this is on alot of vechicles a failure in this system causing breaking is not out of the question.
I am also looking in Honda Pilots aka: a 2005.
If this model year has issues with there VSA system then I will probably look for either older or newer models and make sure I get one without that system installed.
#3295 of 3439 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [mishmouse]
Jan 11, 2011 (6:12 pm)
I predicted this would happen in 2005. I published it in the local newspaper, I sent emails to NHTSA, and I published about 50 identical posts here on Edmunds, in different discussion groups. My posts were deleted by Edmunds because they said it was "spam".
They allowed just 2 posts. One of them is the one you are replying to (#2939 of 3294 published in 2008).
#3296 of 3439 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [rodut]
Jan 19, 2011 (5:52 am)
You were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still have no resolution with Honda!
#3297 of 3439 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [safetymatters]
Jan 23, 2011 (2:20 pm)
I actually turn my "VSA" (Vehicle Stability Assistance) off when there is snow on the ground. I know that it tries to apply the brakes if the system senses a slippage of the tires to bring the vehicle under control. Since I personally don't like when it does this when going around a corner (since I know how to drift around intersection curves) I turn it off. I do make sure to turn it back on for my wife who is like a cat trying to walk on ice when it comes to driving in the snow.
#3298 of 3439 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [odie6l]
Jan 31, 2011 (6:33 pm)
When you drive on show/ice and you skid a lot, while having the VSA turned OFF, is the system completely disabled or only partially disabled ?
I am asking because the idiots who designed the VSA system for Chrysler Pacifica never allowed the driver to complely disable the VSA system. When the driver pushes the VSA OFF button, the system only changes its threshholds (so it would act way less, but still stays enabled).
#3299 of 3439 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [odie6l]
Feb 01, 2011 (8:15 am)
It is actually unclear if the VSA system is at fault or if the entire computer is malfunctioning. So just turning off the VSA is no guarantee.
#3300 of 3439 2004 Honda Pilot,engine tap or knock
Feb 12, 2011 (6:58 am)
My 2004 EXL Pilot with 94,000 miles makes a tapping or slight knocking noise when the engine is cold. This seemed to start about 14,000 miles ago. For the most part the noise goes away when the engine is completely warmed up. Could this be a piston slap? I purchased the Pilot new and have always preformed scheduled service religiously. I have driven my Honda all over the east coast many times, lots of highway mileage. Other then this I have never had a problem,not even a burned out bulb. Has anyone ever heard of this?
#3301 of 3439 Re: VSA, the "safety system", will kill people ! [rodut]
Feb 22, 2011 (5:51 pm)
When you turn it off, it's off totally. It is actually recommended to turn it off when in 4WD if you are off-roading or in deep snow because if it senses the tires slipping it will screw you up and try to correct what you are doing. Even if you turn it off, you still need to drive responsibly and know your limits. I've grown up with mud and sand in my blood and know the limits of my vehicles. Plus I've taken my Pilot ("The Beast") up to Rausch Creeknumerous times and have had a lot of fun there.
#3302 of 3439 Re: 2004 Honda Pilot,engine tap or knock [marty651]
Feb 23, 2011 (5:05 am)
Your slight knocking/tapping sound when the engine is cold sounds like you need a valve adjustment to me. Given that there is probably a timing chain that needs to be replaced at around 100K miles anyway, you could get both done at the same time and save a bit.
Another possibility is that you have been running cheap gas that is too low in octane - if this is the case, you could try adding some mid-grade quality fuel instead to see if the problem goes away. (I avoid off-brand low-price gas stations as a rule myself.)
However, if the problem is not octane related, you should get a qualified mechanic to look at it, since if it is a valve adjustment, it is not a real expensive fix. Hope that helps.