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#3159 of 3436 Brand New 2009 Honda Pilot - Won't Start?!?
Oct 04, 2009 (11:55 am)
I just had my brand new 2009 Pilot delivered to my house yesterday. The engine started just fine when they took it off the truck and I drove it into my garage. Now... it won't start! A couple hours after I had parked it, I went out to turn it on and the lights were all dim with the lights on the dashboard all flashing sporadically. The engine doesn't even turn. We thought it was the battery, but it shows it's fully charged (and we tried jump-starting it a couple times just to make sure).
What on earth could be wrong? It only has 25 miles on it and was in the showroom of the dealership. We were supposed to drive it to visit family today, but all the dealerships (service dept.) are closed on Sunday and we can't find anything in the manual about this. Any ideas that we can try today?
#3160 of 3436 Re: Brand New 2009 Honda Pilot - Won't Start?!? [matmel04]
Oct 05, 2009 (3:29 am)
I was recently working on our Pilot for several hours and the doors were open.
When I turned the key on to crank it, the dash board lights blinked and there was a clicking sound. Just as you have described.
I did notice that the interior lights were very dim. I checked the battery charge and it was something like 8.5 volts. That is a deeply discharged battery. Although the overhead lights turn off after a while, with the doors open, the low lights inside the front doors will remain on if the doors are not closed completely. .
You say the battery shows it is fully charged. Are you using a meter or looking at the "EYE" on the battery itself.?
If the battery is at a good charge, I would suspect that one or both battery connections may be somewhat loose. Dealerships generally will disconnect batteries when the cars are in the showroom. Someone may have "Stuck" the cable back on to get it out of the show room, but it was never tightened properly.
They may have done the disconnect on the "Black" negative cable on the battery. Or at the other end of that cable, that runs from the battery to ground on the cars body. That connection is usually close to the battery and easy to get at.
Even with a fully charged battery, a bad cable connection can behave like a discharged battery. When trying to jump start, a loose cable could still interfere.
#3161 of 3436 Strange noise from the rear of our Pilot.
Oct 05, 2009 (4:04 am)
Our '03 4wd Pilot has begun to make a strange sound from the rear end area.
Hard to explain the sound. It is something like the sound you get when driving across the ridges on the side of an Expressway that let you know you are out of your lane, but not nearly as loud. Or the sound of going across an area where something with steel tracks, like a bull dozier has indented the asphalt, or rain groves have been cut "Across" the lane. It is a muted sound and not real noticeable if the drivers window is open a couple of inches or the radio is fairly loud.
Kind of a "romp-romp-romp" sound. Each "romp" will be maybe a half second long, and there may be only one or there may be several. I've driven over the same sections of the road where it occurred at a particular time and everything was fine. So I dont think it is a road surface thing. Never know when it will happen. Might drive for a half an hour and everything is fine or it may happen several times in 5 minutes of driving.
Doesn't seem to matter the speed, what gear the tranny is in, or whether or not the car is warmed to operating temperature. I've rotated the tires front to rear, and changed the VTM-4 fluid, with "HONDA" brand trying to eliminate the problem, even though it was changed by the dealer about 8K miles ago. on the 30K service. (At least I was charged for a change)
It doesn't happen when a Honda tech is in the car, and they say it is probably the ABS doing "Self Checks". I'm having trouble believing that, because it was never noticed until the last few thousand miles . Surely the ABS was doing "Checks" before now.
#3162 of 3436 Re: Brand New 2009 Honda Pilot - Won't Start?!? [kipk]
Oct 05, 2009 (2:13 pm)
Thanks for all your helpful information! It was the battery. The battery was completely dead and needed to be charged. Everything else is working great now.
#3163 of 3436 Re: Brand New 2009 Honda Pilot - Won't Start?!? [kipk]
Oct 13, 2009 (4:39 pm)
On our 2008 Pilot the inside "manual" headliner lights don't shut off when the doors are shut and the key out of the ignition. I think this is the craziest thing in the world. We have two young kids and an active life. On occasion they turn the light on to see something (gets dark quick in MN), wife pulls in garage, and then everyone piles out...leaving a light or two on. If this is still the case w/the new Pilots then Honda needs to assign someone to start reading these forums and correct this. I've got an Acura TL - also built by Honda - that does NOT do this. In all other respects we really like the Pilot.
#3164 of 3436 Re: Brand New 2009 Honda Pilot - Won't Start?!? [strokeoluck2]
Oct 14, 2009 (3:45 am)
On our 03, If a door is opened and left that way for a while, or a door is not closed all the way, the "automatic" interior lights will turn off after a few minutes. EXCEPT for the lights in the lower panel of the front doors. They stay on and are hard to see from the outside as their position doesn't light up the interior much.
The 03 has a 3 way switch on the dash that will turn on all the interior light in one position. The middle position lets them work automatically when doors open and close, and the 3rd position keeps them from turning on when the doors are opened.
Or even if someone tries turning them on manually.
The "MAP" lights up front can be turned on, and they stay on, no matter the position of the 3 way switch. .
#3165 of 3436 is $538 too much for a 30k service at a dealer?
Oct 29, 2009 (2:04 pm)
Labor cost is $367 and parts $171
#3166 of 3436 Re: is $538 too much for a 30k service at a dealer? [dlmlclkl]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 29, 2009 (7:08 pm)
Assuming you're in the US, you can compare the cost to what Edmunds thinks it should cost for your zip code.
Edmunds Maintenance Guide
#3167 of 3436 How to check front struct leaking
Oct 30, 2009 (4:56 pm)
dealer told me 03 Pilot has the left front struck leaking. $354.00 parts and labor for one struct but both front structs should be replaced together.
how can i verify that the front struct does have leak?
i don't hear or feel any abnormal sounds or handling from the vehicle.
#3168 of 3436 Re: How to check front struct leaking [savegas]
Oct 31, 2009 (3:59 am)
Probably will need to crawl under the car with a flashlight, and visually check.
A lot of $$ to replace a strut. But seems about right in the scheme of how dealers now charge.
Might want to try pricing the shocks/struts at one of the "Wholesale" Honda Dealers, such as Majestic Honda. Then find a "Honda/Acura" independent mechanic to do the install.
Both of the rear struts on our 03 Pilot are leaking a bit, but the last few months remaining on the 7/75K Honda Care EW is going to replace them. Only 39K on the car right now.
How many miles are on your car?