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#3131 of 3426 Re: Honda pilot 2003 [bob11]
Aug 10, 2009 (8:37 am)
You have certainly gotten a lot of use out of your car. All of those parts are getting to the point of needing replacement. I don't think it is related to the transmission change. Thats okay. If you still have confidence in the vehicle and enjoy driving it, then perform what needs to be done.
Look at it this way, $1200 is two months of payments on a new Odessey. If you get another year or two out of your's, then you are way ahead. Even with some other costs thown in.
#3132 of 3426 Re: Honda pilot 2003 [bob11]
Aug 10, 2009 (9:32 am)
Sorry to hear you're having trouble with your pilot. Ours is a 2003 with 173,000 miles on it. So far I've only had trouble with one of the CV joints. Other than that it's been a worry free vehicle. My opinion would be to fix what needs fixed and keep driving it unless you're disatisfied otherwise with it. The items you've mentioned do have a tendency to wear out but so long as the engine is good and you take care of it you should get another 100K out of it at least.
#3133 of 3426 Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [justaveragejoe]
Aug 10, 2009 (8:46 pm)
Okay, if that`s what you thought. it`s fine. We`ll just picking up what is good for the vehicle and if we think that it is wrong, so why we should do it. and if you think also that it is good,, so let`s get it on!!! I`ts is like just eating a whole fish. you throw the bones and eat the flesh.
1-2 mins in idle with 2 quarts in the engine can create 1000s of miles of wear???????
comm`n.....did I say that I run the engine w/o oil filter? So you say that my senior mechanic is a junk? Early oil change can also damage the cat. cnvrtr????? 30% left in oil life is not early, and also it is not excessive . Until here guyz!!! I will post back again when my catalytic converter will fail... and also if when my engine does`nt work..I hope not... HAVE A BLESSED DAY TO ALL PILOT OWNERS!!!
oH THANKS BY THE WAY FOR THE POST OF THE VTM4 FLUIDS IT REMINDS ME TO CHANGE IT.
Aug 13, 2009 (2:25 pm)
Well, here are some “tidbits” that I believe to be accepted in the automotive world.
When you first start your car in the morning, all of the oil is sitting in the oil pan. No oil is in the bearings, or the oil passage ways, or other places that oil needs to be when the motor in running. Every time you “cold-start” or “dry-start” the car, the oil has to go through the pump, filter, and oil passages to get to the bearings. During those brief moments, the bearings do not have oil in them and are “bearing” against themselves (it’s actually metal against metal “tearing”). This is known to cause a lot of wear. Some say up to 80% of ALL wear occurs during these starts, but I haven’t read those studies.
There IS oil in the oil filter because most filters have a check-valve that keeps oil from draining all the way back into the oil pan. When you change the oil filter, the pump and filter need to refill with oil first, before it can go through the oil passages and get to the bearings. Oil filters usually hold around 1/3 of a quart.
Way, way, back when I was the most senior junior-automotive technician at a service shop (I never made it the Certified Master Technician status or even Senior Chief Mechanic) and I would have to change the oil/filter in a turbo-charged vehicle, I had to pull the coil wire on the motor and crank the engine until the “low oil pressure” light went off. Then I could replace the coil and start the car. The reason was that if I started the car after I changed the oil without priming it; the turbo could spool-up (spin) and, since there was no oil in the system, I could ruin the bearings in the turbo. Some professionals prime all vehicles when they change the oil to protect all of the bearings throughout the engine. There is even some equipment that can prime your engine every time you start your car!
Yes, it is important that you do not allow the oil level get too low. By running the engine with only two quarts after an oil change, (1/3 of a quart is gonna be used by the filter), there might not be enough oil to supply every bearing with oil, even at idle. Think about it, if you would not drive your car with only two quarts, then why would you want to run the engine AT ALL with only two quarts? If too much oil is in the pan then the crankshaft can spash though it and create air that could get sucked-up and delivered to the bearings. Too much oil can also damage seals and create leaks.
Mileage by itself is actually NOT a very good indicator of when to change the oil. Other factors, (the number of cold starts, average oil temperature, average water temp, average rpm, precision of fuel metering, etc.) are just as important. The maintenance minder is the latest technology and uses “fuzzy logic” based on these kinds of factors to estimate oil condition. If the minder is indicating 30% oil life at 2,500 miles, then you have very extreme driving conditions. If it is indicating 15% at 5,000 to 7,000, then you probably drive easy and/or live in mild conditions.
The Honda Pilot requires 4.5 quarts of oil (similar to most V-6 engines) after an oil and filter change. Most shops that change your oil are not going to put that extra ½ quart of oil in there, even the ones that pump it out of a 55-gallon drum. After the oil change, the reading on the dip stick will read right in the center of the range, which is fine. Mine stays right there until the next oil change. If your vehicle is using a quart of oil between changes, that means something is wrong. You either have a leak or the engine is burning oil, both are bad. Vehicles are not “designed” to consume oil, only gas.
Wow, I can’t believe I wrote all this! Sorry about the long post……...
#3135 of 3426 rear air conditioner 03 Pilot
Aug 16, 2009 (11:03 am)
I read something about replacing a part to repair the function of the rear air conditioning vents on my 03 Pilot EX. Can someone send me info, or a link to a site, on how to do the repair? No air comes out of the rear vents in the center console. Thanks to anyone who can help!
#3137 of 3426 Re: Rear License Plate Bracket [yessir2]
Aug 16, 2009 (6:52 pm)
This problem poses a severe safety problem and should be reported to the NTHSA website. Suppose a plate falls off in freeway traffic and bounces into the vehicle following. A severe accident could follow.
#3138 of 3426 Re: Rear License Plate Bracket [don_davison]
Aug 16, 2009 (6:54 pm)
These failures represent a safety which should be reported to the NHTSA. A plate could bounce into oncoming or following traffic and create a nasty accident.
#3139 of 3426 Re: rear air conditioner 03 Pilot [bigdadi118]
Aug 17, 2009 (7:23 am)
Thanks for the link! I think I'll be able to handle that, I'm sure that must be the problem. Just as an aside, my 03 has 53,000 miles with one major incident. One day I noticed oil under the engine, at 50,000 miles. I took it to honda service and they diagnosed a rear main seal leak. I know very little about that subject, so I took their word, and $1,100 later, my leak is fixed. Has anyone else had this problem? I actually wrote Honda and received a call from a cust. serv. rep. He was very cordial and asked if I would accept half reimbursement for repair cost. Since I'm beyond warranty coverage, I accepted. I feel I was treated fairly by honda, but not sure what an average rear main seal repair costs. Any comments by anyone? I love Edmunds.com and have gained so much insite on all my car questions!
#3140 of 3426 2009 Pilot Suspension
Aug 17, 2009 (7:57 am)
I bought my 2009 Pilot in June of 2008 and after one year the suspension seems as if it needs adjusting - or something. Can the suspension be adjusted? Going over a small pothole sound like a "crash," while slopping road paving can have the car slightly swaying.
I guess what I'm saying is, there's a noticeable difference in one year. Can anything be done to smooth it out again?