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3189 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 3:25 AM
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Motor oil myths and facts-don't fall for 3000mi. myth or dark oil myth-follow recommended severe oil change-synthetic oil if you have a high performance engine or extremly cold climate other wise it provides no benefit(but no harm either)-avoid engine flushes-check oil-synthetic oil still becomes contaminated ! You can use any oil that meets spc.,even the cheap oil !
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Replying to: onoffroad (Aug 06, 2009 9:20 am) "New oil has chemicals that eat away the catalytic converter, says Donny Seyfer, a Colorado-based certified master technician, and changing oil too often can damage that pricey part." The Great Car Maintenance Upsell (Yahoo)
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 06, 2009 2:09 pm) Good luck to all and stay safe. jensad
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Hi my Honda pilot 2003 has 185000 miles. It's having problems starting. A few months back it had transmission replaced. After a few weeks of that the break switch died. Car had to be towed cost me 500 overall in rental car charges and repairs. Here are some questions Is it worth it persisting with this car? The dealer said starter might need replacing. It's about 600$ it needs timing belt replaced. That's another 500$ do you think the starting problem and break switch failure have anything to do with the transmission change. Thanks
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Replying to: bob11 (Aug 10, 2009 5:35 am) Look at it this way, $1200 is two months of payments on a new Odessey. If you get another year or two out of your's, then you are way ahead. Even with some other costs thown in. |
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Replying to: bob11 (Aug 10, 2009 5:35 am) |
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Replying to: justaveragejoe (Aug 03, 2009 11:43 am) 1-2 mins in idle with 2 quarts in the engine can create 1000s of miles of wear??????? comm`n.....did I say that I run the engine w/o oil filter? So you say that my senior mechanic is a junk? Early oil change can also damage the cat. cnvrtr????? 30% left in oil life is not early, and also it is not excessive . Until here guyz!!! I will post back again when my catalytic converter will fail... and also if when my engine does`nt work..I hope not... HAVE A BLESSED DAY TO ALL PILOT OWNERS!!! oH THANKS BY THE WAY FOR THE POST OF THE VTM4 FLUIDS IT REMINDS ME TO CHANGE IT. |
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Replying to: jensad (Aug 07, 2009 10:00 am) When you first start your car in the morning, all of the oil is sitting in the oil pan. No oil is in the bearings, or the oil passage ways, or other places that oil needs to be when the motor in running. Every time you “cold-start” or “dry-start” the car, the oil has to go through the pump, filter, and oil passages to get to the bearings. During those brief moments, the bearings do not have oil in them and are “bearing” against themselves (it’s actually metal against metal “tearing”). This is known to cause a lot of wear. Some say up to 80% of ALL wear occurs during these starts, but I haven’t read those studies. There IS oil in the oil filter because most filters have a check-valve that keeps oil from draining all the way back into the oil pan. When you change the oil filter, the pump and filter need to refill with oil first, before it can go through the oil passages and get to the bearings. Oil filters usually hold around 1/3 of a quart. Way, way, back when I was the most senior junior-automotive technician at a service shop (I never made it the Certified Master Technician status or even Senior Chief Mechanic)  and I would have to change the oil/filter in a turbo-charged vehicle, I had to pull the coil wire on the motor and crank the engine until the “low oil pressure” light went off. Then I could replace the coil and start the car. The reason was that if I started the car after I changed the oil without priming it; the turbo could spool-up (spin) and, since there was no oil in the system, I could ruin the bearings in the turbo. Some professionals prime all vehicles when they change the oil to protect all of the bearings throughout the engine. There is even some equipment that can prime your engine every time you start your car! Yes, it is important that you do not allow the oil level get too low. By running the engine with only two quarts after an oil change, (1/3 of a quart is gonna be used by the filter), there might not be enough oil to supply every bearing with oil, even at idle. Think about it, if you would not drive your car with only two quarts, then why would you want to run the engine AT ALL with only two quarts?  If too much oil is in the pan then the crankshaft can spash though it and create air that could get sucked-up and delivered to the bearings. Too much oil can also damage seals and create leaks. Mileage by itself is actually NOT a very good indicator of when to change the oil. Other factors, (the number of cold starts, average oil temperature, average water temp, average rpm, precision of fuel metering, etc.) are just as important. The maintenance minder is the latest technology and uses “fuzzy logic” based on these kinds of factors to estimate oil condition. If the minder is indicating 30% oil life at 2,500 miles, then you have very extreme driving conditions. If it is indicating 15% at 5,000 to 7,000, then you probably drive easy and/or live in mild conditions. The Honda Pilot requires 4.5 quarts of oil (similar to most V-6 engines) after an oil and filter change. Most shops that change your oil are not going to put that extra ½ quart of oil in there, even the ones that pump it out of a 55-gallon drum. After the oil change, the reading on the dip stick will read right in the center of the range, which is fine. Mine stays right there until the next oil change. If your vehicle is using a quart of oil between changes, that means something is wrong. You either have a leak or the engine is burning oil, both are bad. Vehicles are not “designed” to consume oil, only gas. Wow, I can’t believe I wrote all this! Sorry about the long post……... |
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I read something about replacing a part to repair the function of the rear air conditioning vents on my 03 Pilot EX. Can someone send me info, or a link to a site, on how to do the repair? No air comes out of the rear vents in the center console. Thanks to anyone who can help!
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Replying to: marklud (Aug 16, 2009 10:03 am) http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A03-048.PDF
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