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Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [justaveragejoe] by donix
Jul 31, 2009 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: justaveragejoe (Jul 31, 2009 12:26 pm)

To justaveragejoe, can you please calculate how much money will I waste in a year if I change oil every 2,500 miles? in my calculation, $50-60 a year more than changing oil in every 3,000 miles.
 
I do this system based on my driving experience every time when I reached below 30% oil life, I need to push harder to accelerate and engine become a little bit noisier than normal. It does`nt matter to me if I waste a few bucks than to suffer a little bit of performance I`m just the kind of driver that wants almost perfect or even perfect!
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Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [donix] by poodog13
Aug 01, 2009 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: donix (Jul 31, 2009 7:34 pm)

Seems unlikely that thesee "perceived" reductions in performance levels are realistic or attributable to oil condition. Many oil manufacturers indicate that their oil lives go well beyond 3,000, and my Honda Pilot is providing the maintenance reminders closer to 5,000 per interval.
 
If $50-$60 per year is no big deal to you, perhaps consider listening to the science backing today's oil life estimates and instead donate that money to charity.
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Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [poodog13] by donix
Aug 01, 2009 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: poodog13 (Aug 01, 2009 8:28 am)

5,000 miles interval for oil change? Oh! thats great I wish mine too
 
I`m not saying that $50-60 a year is not a big deal to me, But the point is, I`m just tryin` to do the best for my vehicle, Because I don`t want to buy another car in just a few years. you know what I mean? I want my car to be a vintage car someday if time will allow.
 
Here: early changing of oil is better than late and late is better than never
 
I got this Idea from my former auto instructor way back year 2005 here`s what he says ( ` You can change your oil early if you want and it`s better for the engine too. but just if you have an extra bucks!) I think it`s not a waste of money for doing this. in fact you gain from it.
 
Extra: I wash the engine (inside) every time I make an oil change. Just putting 2 quarts of oil and run the engine for 1-2 mins . and drain againto make sure there`s no sludge left inside the engine. if you don`t agree with it`s fine but I learned this from my senior chief mechanic. I`m not a mechanic but I can do such task like mechanic do. I`m just in preventive maintenance area. ( prevention is better than cure) the mechanics probably don`t like me
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Aug 03, 2009 (8:53 am)
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Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [donix] by justaveragejoe
Aug 03, 2009 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: donix (Aug 01, 2009 9:23 am)

What is a senior chief mechanic? Running your engine on two quarts of oil every oil change does more damage to your engine than any benefit. The most damage on an engine is when you initially start the car, before the oil has reached the moving parts and created a barrier between them. The worst time is when you change the oil, since there is no oil in the filter and other critical oil paths. Those few seconds create 1000s of miles of wear.
 
Most oil related failures are due to the lack of oil, not the type or age of the oil. If you are changing the oil at 2,500 miles, there will be no sludge. Too many TV commercials about "performance-robbing" sludge.
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Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [justaveragejoe] by poodog13
Aug 03, 2009 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: justaveragejoe (Aug 03, 2009 11:43 am)

New oil also has chemicals in it that can damage the catalytic converter. Normal oil change cylcles don't introduce these chemicals often enough to cause an issue, but excessively frequent changes will.
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Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [poodog13] by steve_ HOST
Aug 03, 2009 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: poodog13 (Aug 03, 2009 3:11 pm)

Interesting - that was news to me. Who's going to break the news to all the quick lube joints?
 
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Re: B16 Code on 2009 Pilot [justaveragejoe] by zorceres
Aug 04, 2009 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: justaveragejoe (Jul 31, 2009 12:26 pm)

Thanks! We looked into the Maintenance Manual and figured the codes out but it also said that B is usually under "extreme" driving conditions so everything that will be done in A is also in B but with lesser milage. That's what I meant when I said Schedule A and/or B.
 
We didn't find the VTM-4 fluid change at 10K and 15K thereafter but will look again and I do appreciate the information. Is just weird to us that it doesn't follow a 15K one like we are used to on our previous cars. I mean, it will be at 10, 25, 40, etc, instead of the way easier to remember 15, 30, 45, etc. So for oil, tires rotation, belts, etc, it is 7.5, 15, 22.5, 30, etc but we have to go in between those for the VTM-4 fluid. Weird!!
 
The oil change reminder is coming on at about every 6500 miles or so which I think is normal for the use we give the car and what the manual says. I do agree that in new cars, every 3K is an overkill.
 
Thanks a lot!
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Re:Minder Codes by justaveragejoe
Aug 04, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Yeah, it is a strange way to layout a service schedule. I never could get a good answer on why they did it this way. Just follow the minder and take care of all the things during the normal A or B schedule. A few extra miles on the VTM fluid won't damage anything.

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