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Re: Battery self-discharge information. [rodut] by tidester HOST
May 16, 2009 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: rodut (May 16, 2009 3:44 pm)

Now the current flows through the ampermeter...so you can read it.
 
Agreed. Ammeters are hard to read when the current spikes and fries it to a crisp.
 
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CHECH FUEL CAP Message by bigdadi118
May 26, 2009 (1:37 pm)
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I have 2008 Pilot VP AWD and the car is 1 year old with 13K mi..
Lately I have message of the "Check Fuel Cap" blinking at the window of Maintenance Minder. The message goes away if I press the little stick to choose Trip-A, Trip-B, Oil Life%.
 
I am sure the fuel cap is tight as I used to click it 4-5 times so really have no clue what's wrong.
 
Does anyone experience this thing?
 
Car is under warranty and I will mention to dealer when I take it to dealer as the maintenance is due.
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Re: CHECH FUEL CAP Message [bigdadi118] by kipk
May 27, 2009 (3:17 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (May 26, 2009 1:37 pm)

Could be a faulty fuel cap. Look at the "O" ring inside the cap for any flat spots or tears.
 
Do you leave the car running for any reason when re-fueling?
 
Definitely tell the dealer about the problem, so it will be documented.
 
Hopefully they can find an error code on the computer.
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Re: Battery self-discharge information. [rodut] by justaveragejoe
May 28, 2009 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: rodut (May 16, 2009 3:44 pm)

Very interesting! 21 mA still seems high, but I guess that is what it is for some reason or another.
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Catastrophic engine failure! '05 Pilot! by jse107
Jun 10, 2009 (11:27 am)
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If you have any suggestions, let me know!
 
Catastropic engine failure in a 4 year-old Honda Pilot with 47,000miles???!!!!
 
Yes, that's correct. Driving the car normally one minute, and completely overheated and shut-down the next. Had to be towed to the dealership where they've had it for 3 days and STILL cannot figure out exactly what's wrong. It's bad. Very, very bad.
 
And to add icing to this wonderful confection, the '05 has a 3/36,000 mile warrarty, whereas the '06 has a 4/48,000 (meaning it would be covered no questions).
 
The car has had no issues before this. No leaking fluid, no weird noises or grinding--nothing. They've sent it out to be "magnifluxed" to see if there are any other cracks in the engine. Mind you, the engine is torn apart.
 
If it's ONLY the head gasket (which it's not), the cost will be $1550. For a 4 year-old Honda. They've said that they've never seen this happen before. I like to be different, but not THAT different!
 
I've already contacted Honda Motors America, who said they can't do anything until a diagnosis of the problem is made. I have a case number, but that's it.
 
AND....now I'm paying for a crappy rental for at least a week!
 
DH has been diligent about all maintence--he does the oil changes with genuine honda parts, replaced differential fluid, checks tire pressure, checks that all fluids are topped off...
 
Any suggestions?
 
GRR!!!
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Re: Catastrophic engine failure! '05 Pilot! [jse107] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 10, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: jse107 (Jun 10, 2009 11:27 am)

Well this is tricky business. If they find no defect they might accuse you of letting the car overheat, and this is, to be fair, an argumentative weapon that can be used on you as an excuse not to help you. Also if your service records are sketchy, this isn't going to help either.
 
It's hard to say which way its going to go. I hope you get lucky. I'm thinking worst case scenario is that they'll offer a split settlement with you, and, short of legal action, that may be the best you can do--unless you want to haul the engine over to someone else to have it examined. The idea of a split settlement is that you got some use over the years and so aren't entitled to everything brand new.
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Re: Catastrophic engine failure! '05 Pilot! [Mr_Shiftright] by jse107
Jun 11, 2009 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 10, 2009 12:12 pm)

Well, the latest as of last evening is that the head has been sent out to be magnifluxed. My husband e-mailed them with all the details of what happened when he was driving. When I talked to the service advisor yesterday, he said he didn't want to speculate on exactly what might have happened and how to repair it. Again, from the minimum of the head gasket to the possiblity of having to replace the engine.
 
My husband does the regular maintenece on this car with Honda parts--oil changes and so forth. He has it all in an Excel spreadsheet where he also tracks the gas mileage of the car for each fill-up. It's detailed, but I don't know if they're going to accept that.
 
I'm very frustrated, especially because the reason we bought a Honda was for their excellent reliability. Makes me wonder about that now...
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Re: Catastrophic engine failure! '05 Pilot! [jse107] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 11, 2009 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: jse107 (Jun 11, 2009 5:28 am)

Well you know, statistically there will be, absolutely, a small percentage of ANY car made by human beings (or their robot slaves) that will screw up--be it a $15000 Scion or a $300,000 Maybach. It is impossible to avoid the occasional disaster. Also we can't regard the entire car a "lemon" because of one part failing, any more than we can write off an entire house because the furnace breaks.
 
Hopefully, Honda will find something unusual and step up to the plate for you. But if they offer you a fair settlement where you pay something out of pocket, I'd go for it and get this behind you. If you dig your heels in, they might up their offer, but they might dig their heels in---and once they've offered a compromise, they start to look good in the eyes of an arbitrator or mediator--if you catch my drift. Of course, it would be nice if this out-of-pocket on your part were minimal, maybe just labor to R&R a new engine. You do have to consider the 40K use you got out of the car and that legally you are totally out of warranty. So play your best cards.
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Re: Catastrophic engine failure! '05 Pilot! [Mr_Shiftright] by jse107
Jun 11, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 11, 2009 7:52 am)

Service manager requested all the maintenence records. Thankfully, although I tease him about it, my husband has everything on a spreadsheet from when we first bought the car--so he sent that off. He also said he could send reciepts from when we got the brake pads done and when another dealership fixed the bumper (it was in an accident that involved a tire rolling off another car!). All oil and parts have been purchased at the dealership servicing the car now, so we have records of that also.
 
I don't begrudge this dealership--I know they are working to find out what's wrong, and in fact, admit they are just as puzzled as we are. It's just a general frustration with the situation. That, and I have to drive a crappy rental!
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Re: Catastrophic engine failure! '05 Pilot! [jse107] by rodut
Jun 12, 2009 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: jse107 (Jun 11, 2009 8:07 am)

The receipts you have for buying the oil do not prove that your husband actually replaced it. You cannot go in court because you have no proof of maintenance. So legally Honda can just walk away. I would suggest you smile nicely,and take any deal they are kind enough to offer.
 
You should never replace the oil by yourself during the warranty. Always have it replaced by any 10 minutes shop (or dealership), and keep the receipts. If your husband wants to play changing the oil, he should do it after the warranty expires.
 
Your spreadsheets, or receipts for buying pads or oil really mean nothing.
 
Call any other manufacturer on their 1-800 line, and ask if your engine blew and you have no maintenance proof ... will they give you a new engine ?!?
 

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