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Re: transmission maintenance [mercara] by steve_ HOST
Nov 12, 2008 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: mercara (Nov 12, 2008 6:38 pm)

This just in:
 
"But Honda's memo to mechanics clearly says "do not use transmission flushing machines" because of the risks to the car."
 
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/flushservices.html (NBC LA)
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Re: transmission maintenance [steve_] by bigdadi118
Nov 12, 2008 (10:43 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 12, 2008 9:16 pm)

I believe 3 x fill/drain should serve like a flush. Just do the fill/drain on each engine oil change, around 5000 mi.
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Re: transmission maintenance [bigdadi118] by kipk
Nov 13, 2008 (2:07 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Nov 12, 2008 10:43 pm)

That would probably be a waste of money. That fluid really doesn't "wear out" like engine oil does. There are 8 or 9 quarts of fluid in the tranny. When it is drained, only 3-4 quarts actually drain. Most/much of the remaining fluid is in the torque converter. So each time tranny is drained it merely dilutes by 1/3 the fluid that was in there.
 
Honda recommends draining the fluid and replacing the filter every 30K miles. The "FILTER" change and cleaning the metal particles from the drain plug are most likely the true goal.
 
Kip
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Re: 2006 Pilot: Transmission Fill Location [vibo] by cia
Nov 13, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: vibo (Nov 09, 2008 10:54 pm)

Where the dip stick is located, look completly on the opposite side of the tranny near the fire wall you will see a tube with a bolt holding down this tube on the tranny. Remove the bolt which is about 2 inches long and grab the tube with your hand. pry the tube left to right till it gets loose and it will lift right off. You can now put a funnel there and fill your tranny. It will take anywhere beteen 3 to 4 litres of oil. Make sure you use the Honda ATF-Z1 oil. Put the tube back in the hole and install the bolt back in place.The level on the dip stick should be checked with the engine off.Also, change your rear differential oil every 25,000 miles. Use the Honda VTM-4 dif oil. The dif is easily emptied by removing the plug under the dif.but refilling it you will need to purchase a suction tube with a hose attached to it. You can purchase this in any tool shop. With this devise you can suck the oil a bit at a time right out of the VTM-4 gallon and transfer it to the diff. The refill plug is on the top side. The dif will take close to 3 litres of oil. I've already changed mine twice without any issues. Good luck
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DTC's. If erased, can it still be read? by mitch65
Nov 14, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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I'm in the process of buying a used 07 Pilot EXL. I was wondering if the Diagnostic Trouble Codes, if erased by one of those readers, can still be discovered? I have a reader myself and I know I can erase them so that the "check engine" light doesn't pop up anymore. So is there a way I can be sure there are no problems if the owner did erase them? I'm getting a service to check out the car regardless.
Thanks.
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Re: DTC's. If erased, can it still be read? [mitch65] by boughtalemon
Nov 14, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: mitch65 (Nov 14, 2008 12:55 pm)

May I ask you how much you are paying for the 2007 Pilot and what the mileage is on it? I am thinking of selling mine, it has less than 8000 miles, all the bells and whistles except the dvd. It's a 4x4.
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Re: DTC's. If erased, can it still be read? [boughtalemon] by mitch65
Nov 14, 2008 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: boughtalemon (Nov 14, 2008 1:18 pm)

Sure. I got the price to 19,500. I saw his ad for 20k even on CL. I saw his window ad asking for 24k, then 22k originally. Has just under 17k miles. Also 4wd. No extras, except a remote starter and 60mo 60k mile warranty
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antifreeze change by marklud
Nov 14, 2008 (6:13 pm)
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I have a 2003 Pilot, 46,000 miles, and want to flush and change antifreeze myself. Not that I'm cheap, but I don't want to use Honda pre-diluted antifreeze, unless I have to. If I flush the radiator and block, won't there be water be left in the block? Do I have to remove the block plugs? Anyway, what other brand would someone suggest is best for this Honda? The way I used to do it on other cars was, flush and fill with the concentrated kind. Usually this is because there is an equal amount of water left in the block, and using a pre-diluted antifreeze will make it too diluted.
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Re: DTC's. If erased, can it still be read? [boughtalemon] by mercara
Nov 14, 2008 (10:37 pm)
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Replying to: boughtalemon (Nov 14, 2008 1:18 pm)

If you erase the DTC code without resolving the underlying problem, it will come back on. There are certain cases when there maybe a delay in the light coming back on. For example if an oxygen sensor fails it may start to give readings outside the standard parameters. However if you reset the code the light may not come back on right away.
 
There is no easy answer to your question. It depends on what triggered the code.
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Re: DTC's. If erased, can it still be read? [mercara] by mitch65
Nov 15, 2008 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: mercara (Nov 14, 2008 10:37 pm)

Mercara,
I understand all that you said about the light not coming back on right away. But I wanted to know if the code can still be found if it was just erased by a handheld reader. For instance, if the seller erases it today to hide the condition, can I still find out about the condition thru some similar method tomorrow, understanding that the light won't come back on for a few weeks?

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