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#2764 of 3439 Re: Servicing according to the Manual? Ha! [rich357]
Mar 10, 2008 (9:34 am)
Except for serious or major repairs under warranty, recalls, etc., do you go back to your dealer for regular servicing?
I have a 2007 Pilot with about 17,000 miles. I've never been back to the dealer for service, which means I've had no problems to be repaired and I choose not to use the dealer for routine maintenance.
When it comes to maintenance, I strictly follow the maintenance minder and owner's manual. But I have the work done by an independent garage located near my home. It's primarily a matter of convenience. The independent is much closer to my home and has better hours than the dealer. No appointment necessary. I suppose I save money too. Also, I feel good supporting a local business.
I am personally leery about having maintenance done by a car wash place. It's convenient, inexpensive and a way to get a free car wash, but . . . I'd be concerned that they would deal with my Honda generically and not put in the right kind of fluids. Doesn't matter what they use for topping off your windshield washer fluid. But what about your oil, brake fluid, transmission fluid, etc.? Do they have the right stuff, and if so, can they be relied upon to use the right stuff?
I have the same concern with independent shops, but I consider them to be generally more knowledgeable than car washes.
I believe that Honda dealers know best what your Honda needs and would be the least likely to screw it up. However, they generally charge higher prices and have a tendancy to do (or try to do) more than what is called for by the manufacturer (i.e., dealer recommended services). They then make you feel like you are doing the wrong thing by your car (and therefore by your family) when you refuse the costly extras and instead insist on sticking to what is called for by manufacturer (maintenance minder + owner's manual).
The bottom line is that convenience, cost and reliability are all factors to be taken into account when deciding where to have your car serviced.
#2765 of 3439 Re: hearing liquid sloshing noise from rear, fuel tank? [jjk20]
Mar 10, 2008 (4:25 pm)
I just bought a 2008 Honda Pilot EX. After a few days of driving I noticed the sloshing sound and some loud thuds when stopping and starting. When I took it back to the dealer they told me it was just the sound the Honda makes. They told me it was a manufacturers defect. I told them them it was unacceptable and wanted it fixed. I am awaiting further action but, I feel that even if it is a defect I want it fixed. I won't stop pushing until it's solved. If anyone has any more input please respond. We shoul'nt have to take these bogus answers!
#2766 of 3439 Is a tire rotation due yet?
Mar 10, 2008 (6:49 pm)
My 2007 Pilot is reaching its 1st birthday and I wonder if I should bring it to the dealer's for a tire rotation.
The usual recommendation from the web is to rotate the tires at around 7,500 miles and mine has some less than 10,000. The manual however says I'd wait till the maintenance minder to show me the code -- not yet so far (except for the last oil change code months back) I don't really have a tire-related problem hoping to solve with this rotation but I wonder if it is best to do it now. Besides, my dealer gives me a free tank of gas for the 1st year whenever I visit them for a service...
Any suggestions? Thanks!
#2767 of 3439 Re: hearing liquid sloshing noise from rear, fuel tank? [pjj4]
Mar 11, 2008 (12:38 am)
Sloshing sound is most likely the fuel in the tank. Especially when stopping abruptly. Our 03 Pilot does it.
We get a "thunk" from the rear when changing direction and applying the brakes.
Back up and apply the brakes, and "thunk"!
Then move forward. It may "thunk" as it start moving. Or it may wait until the brakes are applied the first time. Then it is happy, until the brakes are applied in reverse again.
Something else that is annoying is the "scrapping" sound when very lightly applying the brakes, in reverse, after it has been sitting a day or so. This is especially true when the humidity is high. Both our Pilot and the 03 CR-V do it.
I've concluded it is the light coat of rust that forms on the rotors while sitting. Never noticed it moving forward, although it may do it. But, after sitting, it most always needs to move backward before moving forward, as it is parked in a car port..
Once in a while there is a single "KNOCK" from the engine compartment when it first starts up in the morning, after sitting over night. Sound is similar to taping your knuckle on a wooden surface one time. Doesn't matter if the AC is on or not, and can't be duplicated until it is ready to do so on it's own.
Once in a while there is a slight odor after cranking a cold engine. Kind of sickening sweet like anti-freeze. It only last a few seconds. As the heater fan is always running on "Fresh air" intake, rather than recirculate, I'm thinking that may be a cold start odor from the exhaust,a light breeze is moving it toward the front of the car, and the fan is bringing it inside. Can't duplicate it, until it is ready to do so.
Please keep us informed concerning your "FIXES".
Now, on a lighter note. Our Pilot runs fine. At 65-70mph it delivers 24-26 mpg on the road, and 17-19 locally. It has adequate power when needed. At 30K+ miles the brakes and tires have about half their life left. On trips it is comfortable for driver and passengers. Even those in the 2nd row of seats have plenty of room. Visibility is good and the utility of space and towing is everything we "NEED". Of the 60+ vehicles we have owned, over the years, it is without a doubt, the most pleasing to operate.
>I wish there was a 7 pin electrical connector, from Honda, for towing a light weight camper.
>I wish it had 300 hp and got 40 MPG at 70-75 mph.
>I wish it turned as tight as the CR-V.
#2768 of 3439 Re: Is a tire rotation due yet? [ppzcgg]
Mar 11, 2008 (5:49 am)
In this case, ignore the manitenance minder and get your tires rotated, it's time. Anywhere between 7500-10,000 miles is about right.
If you have an oil change coming up at 10k, that would be a good time.
#2769 of 3439 Re: Is a tire rotation due yet? [ppzcgg]
Mar 11, 2008 (8:58 am)
I used to rotate the tires with every other oil change. Back then oil changes were every 3,750 miles, going by the owner's manual. So I rotated the tires every 7,500 miles.
But on newer Hondas with maintenance minders, I've found that oil changes (at least in my case) are called for every 6,500 to 7,000 miles. So now I rotate the tires with every oil change. The independent shop I use rotates tires free of charge, if requested, when they perform other maintenance such as oil change. So it's a no-brainer.
#2770 of 3439 Re: Is a tire rotation due yet? [davidd3]
Mar 11, 2008 (11:31 am)
Thank you, davidd3 and normkol!
#2771 of 3439 Re: Is a tire rotation due yet? [ppzcgg]
Mar 12, 2008 (8:18 pm)
You or the dealer may have missed the minder for rotation when it came on. It comes on with the oil change minder around the second oil change. I usually have mine rotated every 6000-7000 miles anyway. I bought road hazard warranty from the local Good Year shop when I bought the Pilot (about $60) and that covers rotate and balance. I am not sure if there is a mileage limit before one can buy that but if you are interested you may check it out by going online to Good Year's website and look for info on one of your local franchises. (I have an 06 Pilot and assuming your 07 has Good Year also, unfortunately I could not do that for my Accord since I couldn't find a Michelin dealer who would do that).
#2772 of 3439 Time belt change
Mar 13, 2008 (1:25 pm)
Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier. I have 2008 EX-L w/navi, how many miles before i should look for the time belt change?