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#192 of 3181
Buffeting by marklud
Jun 09, 2003 (4:08 pm)
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I purchased ventshades side window air deflectors from a local auto parts shop, $40. It cured the problem when you first open the rear window. The thumping still occurs when you open it further without opening a front window, but the intial shock is minimized.
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Fuel Tank Vulnerabilities by desertkat
Jun 10, 2003 (10:09 am)
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I have a 2003 Pilot. There was a rupture in the left side ( driver's side) of the fuel tank, 2 + - inches from the bottom. The Honda dealer feels that I ran over something to cause the fissure. This is simply not the case.
 
(1)Has anyone else had this problem ?
(2)Is the fuel tank in the Pilot the same one used in the Odyssey ? ( this was recalled )
(3)Is the manufacturer of the Odyssey tank the same manufacturer of the Pilot fuel tank?
(4)How could one check the part numbers of Odyssey fuel tank against the Pilot tank. Would those part numbers be the same or similar if is a shared tank?
 
My feeling is there are manufacturer's defects in the construction of the tank similar or same as Odyssey.
All comments are welcome.
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Whistling Noise from Air Vent by ermann
Jun 10, 2003 (9:19 pm)
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I have a Pilot EX with less than 600 miles.
Has anybody experienced a whistling noise from the air vents? This only occurs when you switch the a/c from outside air to interior air. I have tried 2 dealerships over the course of a week and a half and neither can solve the problem. They also placed 100 miles on the odometer trying to diagnose the problem.
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Problem with rear driveshaft? by silverpilot03
Jun 27, 2003 (6:14 am)
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I have noticed a thud noise when I go over almost anything on just the pass side of the car at the rear near the wheel. It only happens on the pass side. I have diagnosed the problem to the driveshaft. It seems that the shaft should be adjusted to 23.7 to 23.9 inches. Then the boots are put on at half compression. If you have a service manual, which I highly recommend, you can see this allows the spider to ride inside the middle of the inboard cup. What I would like to ask someone is: When you try to move the rear driveshafts AKA halfshafts laterally, do they move? My driver side does not, but the passenger side does, to the point that it actually slides and hits the inside part of the outboard joint and makes that thud. The dealer has been no help as he says that is normal. Unfortunatley, I am a mechanical engineer with significant automotive experience, and I say he is full of it. All I need is someone to cofirm the lack of movement on their passenger side. I am also waiting for a new Pilot to arrive at the dealership, so I can check it for movement.
 
Thanks in advance for the help.
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silverpilot03- by 01r1
Jul 02, 2003 (7:12 am)
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Mine makes what I think is the same noise you have described, only from the driver's side. I have looked for anything loose (no, it's not the jack) and have discovered the driver's side drive shaft, when moved laterally, seems to be making my noise. I only hear it at speeds ~30mph or less, usually on pavement seams, speed bumps, and driveway lips.
 
When I move the drive shaft vertically, there is a little play, but no noise. When I shake it laterally, in and out of the diff, it makes the noise that I think I'm hearing while driving. The passenger side drive shaft has no play and makes no noise.
 
I shot a little video clip to try and capture the sound from my sloppy drive shaft. Follow this link and turn up your audio all the way, unfortunately you'll have to register to view (it's free):
 
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291118853&code=3967601- &mode=invite
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silverpilot03- by 01r1
Jul 02, 2003 (7:21 am)
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(part 2)
 
There is a chance that your noise is coming from a defect in the upper shock mount. This has happened to several Pilots, always on the rear passenger side.
 
Since we can't post links to competing web forums, I'll quote a good message that sums up this noise from a Honda-Pilot board that has a few hundred posts regarding this noise in the rear passenger suspension area (it's a .org if you're looking):
 
from BPilot,
"My humble opinion
I am now 99.2% sure that my rear suspension noise is (was) due to a defect in the design of the upper shock absorber brackets. I will post a picture, later tonight, illustrating a modification made to my Pilot. This modification resulted in at least an 80% reduction in the sound intensity and occurance rate. It also reduced it from a two cycle sound to one. At this point, it is no longer a concern. The modification is temporary and was done for testing. I will continue to drive it in this state until the permanent fix is in place. The modification involved bending the outside and upper shock mount bracket up and out of the way. In this state, the shock bolt goes directly into the shock and clamps the shock to the inner bracket. For me, this confirms the bracket as the source of the problem. These brackets are stamped steel and are spot welded to the vehicle frame. This is a cost effective way to produce and install the brackets, but leaves room for problems. The unibody frame rail has a recess that makes room for the inner bracket. During assembly, the inner and outer brackets are spot welded to the frame all in one step. The fit is extremely tight where the inner bracket fits into the frame recess. I believe the steel is flexing and that along with possibe metal to metal contact in the upper and out of sight regions of the bracket, noise is produced. The outter bracket is actually welded to the inner one and there are numerous possibilities for flexing and contact. The Steelman listening devise clearly indicated that the shock bolt and mounts were the epicenters of the noise production. There are other confirmations. Removing the shock eliminates the noise. Three different shocks were tried with no impact on the sound. The bracket modification provided the results I was seeking. I am working with a quality technician at my dealer to achieve a long term repair consistent with the intended design of the bracket area. He has been in contact with Honda and they acknowedged the noise, but had not solved it. They appeared to be interested in working with me to reach a long term solution. I hope this is not premature optimism. In in any event, I am now a happy owner of a Pilot that is very close to meeting my expectations. I actually enjoy driving it now. After reviewing the hours, cuts, and pain incurred in reaching this point, I wonder if I should not have taken ablatt's course, only months ago. He'll fill you in. More later BPILOT"
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to 01r1 by silverpilot03
Jul 03, 2003 (1:09 pm)
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Thanks for the information. My Honda service rep is a nice guy, but I cannot count on him to research any TSB's. I did have the front strut noise fixed once, but it is back. I will remove the rear shock and see if the noise goes away. It it does, the message above is right on the mark. The only issue then will be when/if Honda ever has a permanent fix. Otherwise, I will weld up a receiver to replace the sheetmetal bracket.
Thanks again
 
Dave
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need to buy new quarter driver side window by endollan
Jul 03, 2003 (3:49 pm)
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I've shattered my pilot driver side quarter window and would like to know if anybody can point me to a place or site to get a cheap replacement. I live in the LA area. I've called all the dealerships around me and they are charging me $300 fot it. and i'm not going through insurance(personal reason).
#201 of 3181
Burned CDs in DVD RES by msalvado
Jul 05, 2003 (4:47 pm)
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Does anyone know if CD-R or CD-RWs are suppose to work with the DVD player that comes with the RES package?
 
Thanks

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