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Replying to: superjon (Oct 31, 2009 6:12 pm) It will also occasionally do it at slower speeds around 25-35 mph. But doesn't happen as often as at the higher speed. At these slower speeds it seems to growl 3-4 times in a 5 second span. Then it is over. Sure sounds like it is coming from the back. Dealer is replacing the leaky rear shocks in hope they are the problem. I don't have a lot of faith in that "Fix", but am grateful they found the leaks before the EW ends. This car has had a brake "POP" since day one. Applying the brakes when backing will cause the pop, then the first time they are used going forward it will pop again. Then they are fine until used in reverse again. It is like the brake pads are shifting on their pins a bit. I believe there is a TSB for that, but it never was a recall. I'm going to ask the dealer about fixing it. Maybe one of them is vibrating, just from the rotor turning. Grasping at straws here.  Kip
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Replying to: kipk (Nov 01, 2009 12:58 am) I am rest-assured that it is not the rear shocks. The noise that I am hearing is coming from something that is either electronically engaged or has inertial engagement mechanisms like a speed governer does. Something is engaging something else. I have heard that popping noise you mentioned. I have seen that on many vehicles. It comes from when the brake pads do not release the whole way and leave a small amount of tension onto the disc. When you back up after going forward, the entire brake caliper shifts against the opposite mounts. That is when you hear the pop. When you go forward again, it will shift up against the forward mounts and make the pop again. On most vehicles, you will not hear the noise again because the brakes free up after they are cycled a few times and seem to release entirely. However, when the vehicle sets for a while, say overnight or at work, the process will probably start over. Usually, a good dissasembly of all the caliper mount parts and pistons and then resealing with new seals and greasing all the proper parts clears the issue right up. It's time consuming but makes things sound a lot better. superjon
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I have a 2005 Pilot LX that has 111k miles on it. The vehicle has been meticulously maintained and has had all the Honda-recommended services performed at their proper intervals. The issue I am having is noticeable usually when I am gradually accelerating, say, like through a neighborhood. When I get up into the 30's mph range the vehicle will start the buck. It is not violent, but it is definitely not good for whatever is causing the issue. The only thing I can assume it might be would be something like the torque converter lock-out clutch pulsing in and out of lock about every half second. The issue will continue to do this as long as I maintain the specific amount of input and output load and speed on the drivetrain. The shaking will not happen if the vehicle is accelerated at a moderate or aggressive rate. It shifts fantastic when driving like that! Please advise... Superjon |
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Replying to: superjon (Nov 01, 2009 4:41 am)
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Replying to: shodanusmc (Nov 02, 2009 4:30 pm) Then there were a few problems that were not included on TSBs such as the EGR valve that eventually acted up resulting in the car "Bucking" when it tried to lock up the torque converter around 50 mph.. It gave the impression that the tranny was coming apart. It seemed to act up when the car got 20k+ on the odometer which represented 1.5 to 2 years for most cars. Mine didn't do it until about 4 years down the road due to low mileage driving . Dealer didn't have a clue as to what was wrong and thought there was a tranny problem . But there were no codes on the computer. Honda tech support was no help to them. After the best part of a day of looking they put me in a rental car. Late that day, a service writer, not involved, got involved and said he remembered a rash of that problem from a couple of years earlier. So it got fixed. Fortunately the extended warranty covered it. I'm not one to buy a new year model, and really not one to jump on the first year of a completely new model. Prefer to let a couple of years go by for the mfg to work out the bugs. The Pilot was an exception. We needed the 3rd row of seating, and I just liked the looks and the way it drove. Also the Acura MDX had already been on the road for a year, and I convince myself that the bugs had been taken care of there, and "fixes" would have been passed on to the Pilot. WRONG. For the most part it has been a good, but not a great car. The newer Pilots are much more refined and a lot quieter inside as far as wind noise and road noise are concerned. FWIW, yesterday my wife and I were riding in the Pilot and the "NOISE" started acting up big time. That pretty much snapped my last nerve.  Stopped at our local Honda dealer and drove a Ridgeline, because we now need a Pick up more than we need the 3rd row of seats. After 30-40 minutes of discussion, they allowed us the "Excellent" (KBB) trade in and discounted the 09 Ridgeline $4000. Trade difference was $16,225. I felt it was a "Fair" deal and I'm happy with the way the Ridgeline drives, rides and handles. Much quieter inside than the Pilot was. That may have to do with the rear wheels being "Outside" the cabin and the longer wheel base. Hopefully the bugs are worked out of the 09 models. Next door neighbor got a Ridgeline in '07. My son got one in '08. Neither has had any problems. Neighbor pulls a near 4000# foldable Trailmanor camper. Son hunts some of the most gosh awful terrain in the world and this time of the year his Ridgeline is covered in mud as is the trailer and 4 wheeler he tows behind it. Hopefully, this one will be just as reliable as their's have been.  Kip |
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Hey guys, Do you think it's a good deal or Is it worth it If I get my Bnew Pilot EX-L a 5 year/60,000 miles maintenance Plan for $2,000? It includes Regularly scheduled factory recommended services, Oil and filter changes every 3,750 miles and 1 detail per year? Please need your opinion. Thanks. |
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Replying to: ante71 (Nov 06, 2009 6:30 am) |
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Replying to: ante71 (Nov 06, 2009 6:30 am)
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Replying to: boughtalemon (Nov 06, 2009 6:55 am) And 3,750 mile oil change intervals are wasteful and unneeded. The factory recommended interval from Honda is 10,000 miles for the 2010 Pilot (so even $240 is high, boughtalemon). And every time you go for your "prepaid" maintenance, what you want to bet the service writer will try to upsell you something else?
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 06, 2009 9:26 am)  boughtalemon and steve, Thanks to all your replies, I decided not to get that plan after reading all your opinions. |
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