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#225 of 1052
sjwsmw DVD by terumi1
Dec 10, 2003 (11:09 am)
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Right now the price is 1699.00 for the unit. Another 65 for that auxiliary audio adapter. Another 30 for the cable for the games. And 250 for installation. They paint the trim piece that goes around the unit the same as your interior.
 
Plus tax.
 
I am hoping to get the whole thing for 2k installed. I know he will come off the price a little. He has already said so. But just how much, I dont know. The best I might be able to hope for is 10%.
 
So figure on those prices above, minus 10%, if your shopping is going to be imminent and you need an immediate comparison.
 
On putting the Audiovox PROV916 unit in on google.com, I find the price of 1299 and 1499 at two online dealers respectively doesnt include the wireless headsets or the tv antenna. So that brings the price back up. Sound Advice, according to them, has their own package that they get from Audiovox which includes everything.
 
Hope it helps!
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Accessory Prices by berob
Dec 11, 2003 (12:10 pm)
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I'm considering the purchase of a 2004 Pilot and here are the prices the dealer provided for various installed accessories: fog Lights, $689.00; running boards, $699.00; crossbars, $207.50; cargo tray, $96.50; cargo liner, $220.00. He went on to say that he could probably discount those prices some once I made my final selections. Do those prices seem reasonable? If not, what should I expect to pay for them? Thanks.
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berob accessories by terumi1
Dec 11, 2003 (1:09 pm)
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www.handa-accessories.com
 
When I took delivery of my Honda last month, I got the same prices as listed on the web page. Only difference was that I also got them installed at the dealer. So the dealer ordered and installed them.
 
The web page will have all the accessories you listed. Use that as a gauge.
 
See my previous posts for what I ordered in accessories.
#228 of 1052
Acessories from the Dealer by sjwsmw
Dec 12, 2003 (1:55 pm)
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I was planning on buying all my accessories aftermarket but the dealer matched the web prices and discounted the install to apoint where I couldn't say no.
And this was one year ago.
You should be able to do even better now.
#229 of 1052
Reasonable Markup for Dealer Install? by kogeog
Dec 13, 2003 (5:00 am)
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I've reviewed the postings on the board and I've discovered two things:
 
1) There are a lot of people out there that are a LOT more handy with installing their own accessories than I am (or am willing to be!), and
 
2) There seems to be a wide range of installation charges for accessories at dealers
 
On the premise that #1 is relatively unchangeable , what is the concensus on a reasonable % markup for installation over, say, the accessory prices on H and A?
 
Let's assume for the sake of argument that I've beaten the dealer down to $600-800 over invoice, so there's not a lot of wiggle room there.
 
Accessories considered:
Auto Day/Night Mirror
Tow Package
EX Cross Bars
Running Boards
Fog Lights
Lower Trim
...that's about $1850 per H and A...
 
Thoughts?
#230 of 1052
koqeoq Accessories Price Resonability by terumi1
Dec 13, 2003 (7:31 am)
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Of course, what you are willing to pay, is a personal thing.
 
I can only tell you what occured with me on accessories when I took delivery of my Honda Pilot a month ago. See my previous posts for what accessories I had installed.
 
handa-accessories.com (H and A) will have all the accessories you will need for your pilot. Im sure there are other sites, this was just the first one that came up on a google search. You could probably use that as a valid benchmark for pricing.
 
The total price for my accessories from handa-accessories was 1100. Plus shipping. Then you install them.
 
The total price I paid from the dealer for the same accessories was 1184. Which came with installation.
 
So there is your benchmark. You should be trying for the same prices, including installation, as the handa-accessories web page, when purchasing from the dealer.
 
Of course, the dealer doesnt have to do anything! Your bargaining position will be much better if you verbally agree on the price of the car, then go onto the accessories. Meaning, the shell game that the dealer plays of msrp, invoice, dealer prep, advertising fees, trade in, and so on, will only be expanded on if you bring in the accessories. If you can keep them all separate in your head, then fine, negotiate them all at once. Realizing in your head what you want to pay for the car and what you want to pay for the accessories. Add them together and you have the final bottom line price for the car.
 
So, in short, your benchmark, assuming that is what you are looking for here, would be the hand-accessories web page prices, with installation included from the dealer.
 
If you have already taken delivery of the vehicle, then understandably, your bargaining position is weaker. The dealer has no real incentive to negotiate with a deep discount on these accessory items. So you can only hope for the best in that scenario.
 
I have made multiple postings within the past month to help people in their purchase. I have listed in detail the price I paid for the Pilot, and the accessories I added. Look in the prices paid section and the accessories section. You only have about 2-3 weeks to review, and it will well answer all your questions.
 
Hope it helps!
 
As a final note, I noticed you are going to put fog lights on. I also had fog lights installed. That is something that you would definitely want the dealer to do because it involves cutting your bumper. And if doesnt look right, you are gonna' be pissed. There probably is a template that makes the job easier (handa-accessories does have installation instructions), but cutting is cutting. That is irreversable if you mess it up. So as a minimum, fog lights installed at the dealer would be highly advisable.
 
Hope it helps you in your decision!
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pepster - warranty with sunroof by qbrozen
Dec 14, 2003 (10:24 am)
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sorry i'm slow on getting to this. i've been away on vacation.
 
You should ask that dealer exactly why a sunroof would void the warranty. By law, a dealership or manufacturer has to prove that the modification actually caused the failure in question. So what exactly would fail on a car that should be covered by the warranty but was caused by having a sunroof?? Basically, I am not worried one iota about my warranty given the fact I had a sunroof installed. If my engine fails and the dealer tells me he won't fix it because I have a sunroof ... well, obviously, he has no leg to stand on and would never win in court if it even came to that. NOW, let's say the sunroof leaks and drips water on the radio and destroys the radio. OK, that's not going to be covered by the warranty. But the odds of that happening and so slim and a risk I'm willing to take. I also have confidence that my sunroof installer would make good on that particular repair.
 
hope this helps.
#232 of 1052
sysadmin1 and dcosi DVD headrest systems by terumi1
Dec 21, 2003 (11:44 am)
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Below is a repost from the Pricing msg boards. I put it here as we are really talking about accessories.
 
Well, in a strange twist of fate, I wrenched out the wallet, and switched to the headrests. Why did I do that? Well, I just wasnt really jazzed about the prospect of cutting that headliner. Third row viewing wont be what it would have had I had the 10.4 inch or 9 inch monitor mounted on the ceiling.
 
bconsi wanted to know about this. To answer your question, bconsi, no, I dont think you will be able to view the headrest screen comfortably from the 3rd row. They might have to lean up. The salesman, as a selling point of the ceiling mount, talked about the third row viewing and how good it would be with a 10.4" or 9" screen. He said the 7", which is what the headrest monitors come with, are too small.
 
If you have the money, bconsi, the best....I mean THE BEST...way to go, would be headrest monitors in all seats. hahaha...I know, a lot of money. That's why I prefaced it with, "if you have the money". And ulitmately, in switching to the headrest monitors, I had to lose the tv tuner to keep the price the same. Read on.
 
So headrests vs. ceiling mounts comes down to a judgement call on the buyers part. 2 children or less, and the headrests have the advantage of one child being able to watch a movie, while the other one plays videos. Or one can watch tv (if you have a tv tuner). And so on. As long as there is are separate video sorces, each can flip the screen to what they want to watch. So, more options for the multiple children scenario, as each can watch what they want.
 
The other plus is that the headrests are a much cleaner installation on your new pilot (mine is now a month old), and for me, I wasnt really excited about cutting the headliner, for resale. Because with the headrests, you pop out the headrests monitor, send it back to the company (for a fee), and they send you a new headrest for the new car you have bought. You put the old headrest monitors back in your Pilot, and sell the car untouched and factory fresh.
 
Pluses of the headrest sytem:
 
-cleaner...more of a, "factory" look
 
-easier and less invasive to your car to install and uninstall
 
-better quality screen (the brand, "epic", that I am buying is a third generation screen. Much nicer than the audiovox one I was going to get.)
 
-more video source switching options. Providing you have the multiple video sources. If you just have a dvd player, then you only will have one video source and one screen on the ceiling would be fine. And you would be able to have third row viewing (9 inch screen or larger). But if you are planning on gaming, or having a tv tuner, or both, resulting in multiple video sources, multiple screens will allow you to switch around on video sources so one kid can do one thing, and another another.
 
Drawbacks of the headrest monitors
 
-more money
 
-third row seating viewing difficult
 
-7 inch screen is the largest offered, although supposedly a 9 inch screen is going to be offered in the near future.
 
-minor cutting will be required somewhere for the dvd player. If you buy the all in one audiovox one that I was going to do, then you wouldnt have to cut anywhere for the dvd player. But you would have to cut your headliner. I think the cutting for the dvd player is less invasive overall.
 
The dealer was very sincerely pro headrest monitors. Sincere as in he wasnt trying to make more money (price ended up being the same, but now didnt have the tv tuner. Adding the tv tuner would have been an extra 300-400, hence, the higher price for the headrest systems, you have to pay for everything ala carte. They dont come as an all in one package), he really thought the headrests were a better monitor, a much much cleaner installation with a 100% factory look (the Epic brand, as Im sure the other ones do, send you headrests that match your car EXCTLY in style and color), and the possibility of video source switching.
 
So, if you have the money, I think that the more headrest screens you put in, the better! That way, the kids arent fighting.
 
The price, as I said, ended up being the same. The all - in - one audiovox unit that mounts on the ceiling with a 9" screen, installed and with tax (the out the door price), was $2050.00 And that came with EVERTHING.
 
-two IR headsets
-tv tuner
-9 inch monitor
-fm modulator (see my discussion on aux audio adapters with sysadmin1. I swapped this out for an aux audio adapter and will not be using the fm modulator)
-dvd player
 
And I added a gaming wire for future use (L/R audio and video cables to be stored under the seat).
 
The Epic, as I said, is ala carte. So I have the same things above, less the tv tuner. So no tv capability. For $2050. It can be added in the future, for a price of course! And the headsets that I purchased with the Epic headrest monitors are much much better. They are not IR. They are RF. So you dont have to hold your head just so for the headset to pick up the IR signal. And it isnt necessary to have IR repeaters drilled throughout the car to receive the infrared signal. The RF is a radio frequency. So is not a line-of-sight thing. Go wherever and listen uninterrupted.
 
Oh, btw, I am putting the dvd player at the bottom of the radio stack. I have a navi system, so no room to mount the dvd player in the radio stack. It is in that cubbyhole at the bottom. But that trim piece that they will be cutting into, is replaceable. So if you replace the trim piece, and re-install the original headrests, your car in now factory, again. If you dont replace that cubbyhole trim piece, the holes will be on the top of the cubbyhole, and nobody will see them anyway.
 
DVD placement is a whole nother issue. And if anyone has any better suggestions, I am open. I have a navi system, as I said, so mounting it in the radio stack is not an option. And mounting it under the passenger seat isnt an option because of the navi computer under the seat. The drawback of putting it in that cubbyhole at the bottom of the radio stack is that my wife will lose most/all of that space, and, the cutting required for mounting and running the wires. Again, that piece is replaceable. So it comes down to the lost space. The wife wasnt real jazzed about that. But she did like the convience of putting the dvd disk in.
 
Sysadmin1, you keep saying RES. What does RES mean?
 
In the end, it is really a judgement call. Each system has its plus and minus. There is no clear cut.
 
It comes down to 2 systems. Either the all in one on the ceiling, or the headrests. Hopefully, the windy explanation(s) offered above will highlight some of the issues to consider in the choices.
#233 of 1052
terumi1 - DVD Installation by mrkn
Dec 22, 2003 (6:44 am)
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Congratulations on your new DVD system. It sounds wonderful.
 
Why do you say that you need a 9" or larger overhead monitor in the pilot. Your dealer might be misguiding you. Honda's factory system comes with only a 7" monitor and the third row occupants can watch a movie without a problem.
 
I sat in a third row just to see how a 7" looks like and it seemed fine. I agree the larger the screen the better, to an extent. Too large of a screen in a midsize SUV can give the kids a headache.
 
I also purchased a Pilot with Navigation so I also debated as to which system to install - headrests or overhead unit.
 
I finally decided on the overhead unit. I looked at the Audiovox 9" PROV 916 and the 8" VOD 808. I decided on the VOD 808 because I don't care for the 16:9 ratio. Actually the surface area on the 8" 4:3 ration is not much less than the surface area on a 9" 16:9 ratio.
 
The total installed price was $1325.00 plus 6% sales tax. The system has an FM modulator, TV tuner and antenna, and two premium IR wireless headseats. The dealer did a fantastic job with the installation and the picture is absolutely beautiful. The installer was also able to take the auxilory video output and hook it up to my Navigation monitor via an A/B swith so that my wife can watch the movie when we go on a long trip. This last part is illegal but the A/B switch is hidden.
#234 of 1052
mrkn Video Screens by terumi1
Dec 22, 2003 (7:54 am)
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The salesman did directly say that the 7" screen was too small for 3rd row viewing. I believed him on it, not having viewed any of the screens from the actual car seats.
 
So my posting was based on what he had advised me. And I think for us that that became the hardest thing; trying to project what would look good and what wouldnt and what would our needs be in the future.
 
Funny, when my wife went to look at the dvd screens, she felt the 10.4" was too big.
 
Personally, as far as the audiovox, I liked the PROV 916. I never saw the VOD 808. It sounds like the same thing, with a lot less of a price tag. The PROV 916, installed, with the aux audio adapter cable that I am using instead of the fm modulator, including tax, was $2050. So I am impressed with your $1500 price tag out the door price.
 
How much was it to install that A/B switch? I was initially not interested, but now as I have become, "screen guy", with these multiple headrest screens, I'm thinking, hey, the more the merrier! <G>

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