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#91 of 18018 Matt - on the Bora by alfox Aug 09, 2002 (6:43 am)
I called the dealership and was told that the Bora was indeed built for the Germany market. It's an 01 2.0L that was bought there by an American GI and driven in Europe for 2 years. When he transfered home he had it modified for US licensing. I was wrong on the mileage - it has 36k on it. Salesman didn't know the asking price, and I didn't ask him to go find it since I was not a buyer.
#92 of 18018 by magnetophone Aug 09, 2002 (7:26 am)
It's sort of rare to find a Bora in germany as it is... I think they old sell about 30,000 of them per year in Germany and 15,000 in UK. They sell about 10 times as many Golfs in the same year.
#93 of 18018 LaForza by odman Aug 09, 2002 (11:50 am)
I vaguely recall that the LaForza was powered by 5.8 litre Ford V8s.
#94 of 18018 odman by maltb Aug 09, 2002 (12:15 pm)
The previous poster was correct: http://www.laforza.com/specs.html "Equipped with a 302/5.0 Liter 340 HP “Supercharged” Fuel Injected Ford engine coupled with a Ford electronic four-speed automatic transmission..."   Read down on the page: Skip Braden, General Manager of Laforza, tells us that "During the Laforza's 35-mph crash test the Laforza is the only vehicle to ever crash through the barrier."
#95 of 18018 The 5.0 is a nice engine but.... by andys120 Aug 09, 2002 (12:19 pm)
It's a little light for a 5200 lb tank. What do you think of the brag about "crashing through the barrier?"
#96 of 18018 by maltb Aug 09, 2002 (12:32 pm)
I think it's an awesome marketing tool for their idiot target market.
#97 of 18018 How about... by john_324 Aug 09, 2002 (2:32 pm)
...Pontiac Fieros? I saw an early 4 cyl one in good condition on the road the other day, and it made me realize that you don't see them as often as you used to. I've always liked them, if only for the idea of a domestic car company building a mid-engined two-seater. Are they becoming rare, or is it just me?
#98 of 18018 I never understood the whole Fiero cult-thing.... by andys120 Aug 09, 2002 (2:37 pm)
but I can tell you that people who are knowledgeable about cars and people who don't give a fig about cars otherwise are hanging on to them like they were jewels or something.
#99 of 18018 Did that Fiero have one headlight up? by lokki Aug 09, 2002 (2:43 pm)
They're famous for that; although that may not be their most famous problem, all of them seem to go into that mode sooner or later.
#100 of 18018 Once again by maltb Aug 09, 2002 (3:02 pm)
Toyota was able to make it more refined and more reliable.   I don't remember hearing anyone accuse the 2.5 wheezer of being able to get up and go. By the time it got a V-6 it only got heavier, more cladding (really? a Pontiac with cladding?nahhhhh) and pricey.

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