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#29981 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [andre1969]
Jul 23, 2013 (11:22 am)
the high trunks now are bad, and the headrests are huge. Our Volvo is tiny but impossible to see out the back very well with the headrests up. The S60 actually had a power release button on the dash. Hit the button, and they flopped down backward (onto the rear deck) so you could see better.
The new Accord actually is an improvement. The prior generation had gotten much worse (my 2005 was easy to see out of, but the 2008 model went bunker). A trend in the right direction.
good think my RDX has the camera. Would never know what was going on without that!
#29982 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [andre1969]
Jul 23, 2013 (12:14 pm)
One problem is these huge headrests they have these days.
Thank the IIHS. They prevent whiplash but you look towards the back of the car to avoid an accident.
Jul 23, 2013 (2:27 pm)
Early '70s model..... tooling down the freeway, today...
#29984 of 30836 Visibility
Jul 23, 2013 (3:14 pm)
You want bad visibility? Drive a current generation LaCrosse. It's bad, really bad. The A-pillars are like roof trusses. Other than that, great car!
#29985 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [fintail]
Jul 23, 2013 (4:42 pm)
On the subject of getting spoiled, I have a feeling I'm going to run across problems when the time comes to replace my 2000 Park Ave. Even though I've had a few choice words for the car that aren't fit to type on an Edmund's forum, it is a comfy, roomy, car, and a great long-distance traveler, provided the roads aren't too rough.
And, now that Ford's Panthers are gone, I don't think there are any cars left, at least something semi-affordable, that are as roomy inside. I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but I think the EPA rates my Park Ave at something like 111 cubic feet of passenger volume, and a 19 cubic foot trunk. The Charger/300, which would probably be tops on my list, are a bit smaller inside, something like 106 cubic feet I think. Plus they have a big driveshaft hump, and the small windows make them feel a bit claustrophobic inside. The current Taurus is a non-player as a full-sized car as far as I'm concerned. It does have a big trunk, something like 21 cubic feet, but the interior is something like 102, and feels tight to me because of the narrow footwell, high center console, etc. And again, you have the small windows and high sills.
The 2014 Impala actually seemed fairly big inside. I could tell it gave up some shoulder room compared to my Park Ave, but otherwise felt good. But again, there's that high sill, small windows, etc. I'll just have to get used to that I guess.
As for my uncle's Camry, I have a feeling that it's one of those cars that, the more I drive it, the less I'm going to like it. I don't think I'll ever learn to hate driving it, like I did his '03 Corolla, but I think with time and experience with it, the new-car magic will wear off and its flaws will start to show.
Oh, on the subject of 80's Oldsmobiles, I got reminded today, of an '86 or so Cutlass Ciera that one of my grandmother's friends had. I think they called it "International Series". I remember it had a badge on the side with a whole bunch of European flags run together. And it had some blackout trim. And, she was pretty proud of the little "FE3" badge on the back...as if she actually knew what that meant! Still, not a bad car fo the time. Anyway, she ended up moving down to North Carolina sometime in the late 1990's, and still had the car at that point. We pretty much lost contact with her after that, other than Christmas cards and such, and those slowly tapered off. Well, my Mom called me today, and said that she found out that this lady died. Back in 2006! Kinda sad, as I always thought she was a cool old lady, but, nobody lives forever. I'd always wondered what happened to her, so it gave closure, at least. I'm kinda curious as to whatever became of the car, now long it lasted, etc.
My Granddad on my Dad's side of the family had a 1994 Taurus GL. He gave up driving in 2004, when he turned 90. At that point he'd had 3 minor fender benders, but it was the kind of stuff that could happen to anybody, and not really old-age related. But, the insurance company raised his rates, he thought it was because of his age, so he gave up the car and driving. Initially, he offered to give me the car, but I didn't need it. Well, one of my cousins and his wife got it, and sadly, it deteriorated quickly under their watch. I think it only had about 40,000 miles on it when Granddad gave it to them, and they might have taken it to around 80,000. It started leaking coolant, I think, and my cousin sold it real cheap sometime last year to a friend of his, and I don't know what happened to it after that. I remember back in 2009 or 2010, going down to see them for Easter, and taking Granddad down. He saw the Taurus off to the side in their driveway, went over to it, and just shook his head kind of sadly.
#29986 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [andre1969]
Jul 23, 2013 (5:04 pm)
You're either going to have to find mint old cars to drive, or deal with higher sills. Time moves on. There should be a supply of nicer old cars for some time, it'll just take work to find them, and they will have quirks like your current Buick.
Something about the current Taurus makes it feel tight upfront, maybe the console/dash relationship. My family had a Ciera, but it wasn't an International - however it did have the flag emblem on the front fenders, I think they all had that. Was FE3 the suspension? That would have been a top of the line model. An International Series Ciera is a rare car anymore. I think that trim also existed on the larger ~88 Cutlass Supreme coupe.
Those mid 90s Taurus weren't the most durable things anyway. You'd get a 3.8 with a weak headgasket, potential transmission issues, or both. My mom had a 93 with a 3.8, I remember it would make weird sloshing sounds from inside the dash.
#29987 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [fintail]
Jul 23, 2013 (5:25 pm)
Yeah, I think "FE3" was a suspension option on the Ciera, that made it handle a bit better and ride a bit firmer.
Luckily, Granddad's Taurus just had the 3.0 Vulcan. But, I swear I always smelled antifreeze every time I drove that car or rode in it, after it was about 5-6 years old. That was also one reason I passed on it when he offered to give it to me.
Before the '94, they had an '89 LX that had the 3.8. However, they traded it before it had any real issues. Granddad usually traded every 3-5 years, whether he needed to or not. In 2000 he wanted to go look at new cars, so I took him out to look at the new Taurus, which I kinda liked after the 2000 facelift. However, Granddad hated it, refused to drive it, and the salesman had to beg him to even sit in it. I told him that the '94 was so low-mileage that he might as well just keep it. I guess when you're used to trading every 3-5 years though, it's a hard habit to break. He actually bought the '94 in late '93, so he was probably getting itchy to replace it around '96-97.
#29988 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [andre1969]
Jul 23, 2013 (5:51 pm)
get a minivan. More interior room than you will ever know what to do with.
But man, we have different taste. I hate oversized cars.
#29989 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [stickguy]
Jul 23, 2013 (6:07 pm)
Minivans are maybe permanently scarred by the soccer mom thing. But I agree, if you need room and flexibility, I can't think of a better vehicle for the money.
#29990 of 30836 Re: first iPhone pic... [berri]
Jul 23, 2013 (6:32 pm)
well, the stigma is why they invented the CUV (soft roader) for people that really need a minivan or wagon, buy won't drive one.
For Andre, you can get the same type of room/flexibility in something like a Venza, or an RDX, even with a smaller footprint.