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#28134 of 29664 Re: Cimarron [ateixeira] by stickguy

Feb 17, 2013 (8:53 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 17, 2013 7:01 am)
I don't think decontenting the civic had anything to do with the ILX. They did not really take content out either (as in features) just cheaper materials.
 
IMO. they tried to trim costs to compete with the Corolla and Koreans on price.

#28135 of 29664 Re: No-Go? [stickguy] by 4mercoachrick

Feb 17, 2013 (5:20 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Feb 15, 2013 8:03 pm)
Spotted TWO 1970 Nova(s) in the past week. One fooled me because the extensive body work eliminated all fender lights. The other looked pristine by comparison. One was a rather hideous deep red, the other a 'factory' light blue, just like a neighbor owned 'back then'. Bench seats sure made it easier to snuggle in those days

#28136 of 29664 Speaking of 2 of a kind by texases

Feb 18, 2013 (8:01 am)

I saw two last-gen Celicas. Not unusual cars, sure, but they were identical (silver, GT I think), and parked next to each other at the shopping center. Odd.

#28137 of 29664 I'll see your pair... by andre1969

Feb 18, 2013 (8:13 am)

and raise you another! Yesterday, at a traffic light, I saw two different '95-96 Caprices, both black. I thought one was an Impala SS at first because of the grille, but when it got the arrow and turned in front of me, I could see it was just a Caprice with the SS grille. It did have dual exhaust though, so probably had the 350 at least.

#28138 of 29664 Re: I'll see your pair... [andre1969] by fintail

Feb 18, 2013 (9:04 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 18, 2013 8:13 am)
There's an SS slumbering in the garage where the fintail now lives - looked like it hadn't moved in awhile. I wonder if any market will develop for them.

#28139 of 29664 Re: I'll see your pair... [fintail] by andre1969

Feb 18, 2013 (9:12 am)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 18, 2013 9:04 am)
I think those '94-96 SSes will have some collector value, and I think they do already. Part of the problem though, is that GM made a lot of them, and a lot of them survived because they were the last of a breed.
 
GM built 6303 of them in '94, 21434 in '95, and 41,941 of the final '96 model. So, even if there's a big demand for them, there will always be a healthy supply.
 
I think they'll end up in the same sort of league as the 80's Monte Carlo SS, or the Buick Regal T-type and Grand National. Not the GNX though, as GM only made 547 of those in 1987, and they had performance that was good even by today's standards. In contrast, I don't think a stock '94-96 Impala SS is much quicker than my Park Ave or Ram, or my buddy's Xterra.

#28140 of 29664 Re: I'll see your pair... [andre1969] by tjc78

Feb 18, 2013 (9:27 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 18, 2013 9:12 am)
I don't think a stock '94-96 Impala SS is much quicker than my Park Ave or Ram, or my buddy's Xterra.
 
0-60 in 7.1 seconds.... so a stock 07+ Camry V6 will blow it away. I still say it's a cool car and I would own one. It is also a great base to start with as you can stuff just about anything under the hood.
 
Speaking of "sport barges" I also like the 03-04 Mercury Marauder as well. It's performance was actually a bit slower than the SS, but IMHO a better looking car. I was thinking about getting one at one time, but it just never fell into place.

#28141 of 29664 Re: I'll see your pair... [andre1969] by fintail

Feb 18, 2013 (9:29 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 18, 2013 9:12 am)
That might be it, high survival rates. They seem to have depreciated to a floor now, maybe 10K for a nice one, but I don't see that increasing. Neither have the Monte SS etc like you mention. In 2000, a friend of mine paid ~6K for a nice 50K mile black on red 85 Monte SS. Probably worth about that now.
 
The old tech/unremarkable performance is a factor too. They do have a look to them though, pretty cool for a boat.

#28142 of 29664 Re: I'll see your pair... [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Feb 18, 2013 (9:29 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 18, 2013 9:12 am)
The '96s are worth more than 94 or 95 because of the floor shift w/ console.
 
Very low mileage, ultra clean ones can pull $15,000 or so.

#28143 of 29664 Re: I'll see your pair... [tjc78] by andre1969

Feb 18, 2013 (9:44 am)

Replying to: tjc78 (Feb 18, 2013 9:27 am)
0-60 in 7.1 seconds.... so a stock 07+ Camry V6 will blow it away. I still say it's a cool car and I would own one. It is also a great base to start with as you can stuff just about anything under the hood.

 
Yeah, same here. Although I'd be just as happy with an LT1 Caprice, Roadmaster, or Fleetwood.
 
I also like the 03-04 Mercury Marauder as well. It's performance was actually a bit slower than the SS, but IMHO a better looking car. I was thinking about getting one at one time, but it just never fell into place.
 
Yeah, the Panthers in general just seemed like better proportioned cars than those bloated aero GM cars. I think one reason the Impala SS was held in higher regard is mythology. While there are a lot of mainstream cars today that can do 0-60 in 7.1 seconds or less, back in 1994-96 there weren't.
 
But, in just a few years, all that changed. When Nissan stuck a 3.5 in the redesigned '02 Altima, I think that's what really opened up the horsepower wars in mainstream cars. And by the time the Marauder hit the streets, a V-6 Altima would probably blow it away, possibly the Accord as well. And even the Camry, which held off for a bit, probably wasn't too much slower.
 
I guess with all the Hemi Chargers and 300Cs out there, none of them will really become collectible, either? What about the ones with the extra-big Hemis? I think they're up to a 6.4/392 CID now in stuff like the SRT-8?

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