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#27742 of 29827 Re: White Chevy Citation [fintail] by oldbearcat

Jan 27, 2013 (9:14 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 27, 2013 3:20 pm)
Years ago I got to ride in a very special Chevy Citation. The car was a GM test mule, and, the performance it had was simply awesome. After the ride, the test engineer popped the hood for me. I was looking at a turbocharged Buick 3.8 V6. Turns out the car had the prototype drivetrain destined for the Buick Grand National.
 
Regards:
Oldbearcat

#27743 of 29827 . by fintail

Jan 28, 2013 (11:21 am)

Out in the rain this morning: 87-88 Ciera driven by a 75 year old woman with her 100 year old mother as passenger, early 90s Ciera with back-up damage driven by a man who was probably that woman's father, and a driver quality 59 Cadillac flat top, white with a coral roof.

#27744 of 29827 Re: White Chevy Citation [oldbearcat] by explorerx4

Jan 28, 2013 (4:43 pm)

Replying to: oldbearcat (Jan 27, 2013 9:14 pm)
Front drive turbo v6? I hope you wore your seat belt.

#27745 of 29827 Re: White Chevy Citation [oldbearcat] by berri

Jan 28, 2013 (7:15 pm)

Replying to: oldbearcat (Jan 27, 2013 9:14 pm)
Once they got the initial kinks out, I thought the Citation was a nicer car than competitive K cars or Tempo and Topaz. More comfortable ride.

#27746 of 29827 Lincoln LSC by berri

Jan 28, 2013 (7:16 pm)

This evening at the gas station I saw a rather pristine 80's Mark VII LSC. It was a white coupe , yet it still looked rather classy to me.

#27747 of 29827 Re: White Chevy Citation [explorerx4] by oldbearcat

Jan 28, 2013 (10:46 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 28, 2013 4:43 pm)
Sure did. The driver punched that beast in our plant parking lot, and, about threw me in the back seat. My son once owned a Citation X-11, and, it didn't have anywhere near the get up and go the test mule did.
 
Regards:
Oldbearcat

#27748 of 29827 Re: Lincoln LSC [berri] by dieselone

Jan 29, 2013 (4:55 am)

Replying to: berri (Jan 28, 2013 7:16 pm)
This evening at the gas station I saw a rather pristine 80's Mark VII LSC. It was a white coupe , yet it still looked rather classy to me.
 
That's probably the last Lincoln I've liked. I always thought those were pretty cool in their day. A bit of class and attitude.

#27749 of 29827 Re: White Chevy Citation [berri] by andre1969

Jan 29, 2013 (7:17 am)

Replying to: berri (Jan 28, 2013 7:15 pm)
Once they got the initial kinks out, I thought the Citation was a nicer car than competitive K cars or Tempo and Topaz. More comfortable ride.
 
I agree. They definitely felt roomier inside. I think the K-cars were a bit wider inside (but had paper-thin doors), but the X-bodies had better legroom, while still being wide enough.
 
Now, I always thought the Citation looked pretty cheap inside, at least in base form...much more plasticky than a Reliant or Aries. But, the Phoenix, Omega, and Skylark versions, when equipped the right way, could be downright luxurious inside.
 
I developed a new-found respect for the K-car though, when I drove my cousin's Dodge 600 one day. Okay, technically, it was an E-car, but it was still the K with a 3 inch stretch in wheelbase. It seemed roomy and comfy enough, and a good alternative to the Chevy Celebrity, Ford LTD, or even the Taurus. However, I didn't like the fact that they were depending on turbo 4's for added power, instead of a good old fashioned V-6. But, my cousin's 600 was a turbo, and decently quick for the time.
 
The Tempo and Topaz never seemed like much more than cheap, basic transportation to me.

#27750 of 29827 Re: White Chevy Citation [oldbearcat] by hpmctorque

Jan 29, 2013 (7:40 am)

Replying to: oldbearcat (Jan 28, 2013 10:46 pm)
I think explorerx4 may have been referring to torque steer even more than acceleration. It must have been wild in a FWD car with that much torque, at a time when they hadn't yet mastered the art of controlling FWD torque steer.
 
The Buick GN wasn't afflicted with torque steer, of course, since it was RWD.

#27751 of 29827 Re: Lincoln LSC [dieselone] by ateixeira

Jan 29, 2013 (7:41 am)

Replying to: dieselone (Jan 29, 2013 4:55 am)
The Gentleman's Mustang. I liked 'em too.
 
But I also liked the early LS, which even came with a manual.
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