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#27574 of 30869 Re: 1987-91 Olds 88 coupe... [andre1969]
Jan 16, 2013 (6:28 am)
You mentioned Ford's early 4 speed. That is one you do hear the least about. The AOD received revised internals sometime in the late 80s, but overall is a really good transmission. Many, many failures of AODs are not the fault of the transmission, but rather a 25 cent grommet that fails causing the TV pressure to go too low and destroy the transmission.
I had this happen on my 89 MGM and it wouldn't stay in 4th gear above 65. I just drove it as a 3 speed for a good while.
#27575 of 30869 Re: 1987-91 Olds 88 coupe... [tjc78]
Jan 16, 2013 (11:28 am)
Happened to me too!
#27577 of 30869 Re: Weirdness from Japan [wevk]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 16, 2013 (5:03 pm)
nobody does weird like the Japanese---they are very imaginative about things like this.
#27578 of 30869 Re: 1987-91 Olds 88 coupe... [uplanderguy]
Jan 16, 2013 (6:38 pm)
Nineteen eighty five was the the first model year for the FWD Park Avenue and Ninety-Eight. I bought a '85 98 Brougham in '88. Nice, roomy, comfortable car, with relatively good performance and reliability for that period.
#27579 of 30869 Re: 1987-91 Olds 88 coupe... [andre1969]
Jan 16, 2013 (6:37 pm)
I bought my '85 98 Brougham with 31,500, and it was already on its second transmission. The original had been repaired or changed under warranty by the first owner. The second transmission failed at 88,000, and the third at 153,---. Since the car also had other needs by then I managed to carefully nurse it to the junk yard. It cost me a traffic ticket, though, because a traffic light turned yellow at an intersection. I didn't want to stop because of the badly slipping transmission, but the light turned red as I approached the intersection, and the camara caught me. The money I got from the junk yard paid for the fine, give or take a beer or two.
Jan 16, 2013 (6:40 pm)
Saw 2 more old 911s today, both 70s era I would guess - a yellow one on black Fuchs style wheels, seemed to be sitting too high, and a silver one on polished Fuchs wheels.
#27581 of 30869 Re: 1987-91 Olds 88 coupe... [andre1969]
Jan 16, 2013 (6:48 pm)
Around 1998 or '99 I worked for a time with a fellow who was a bit of a gearhead who had one of the early Olds 88 FWD coupes. I think it was an '87. He still had the original transmission and attributed the longevity of it to the fact that he installed an aftermarket transmission cooler shortly after buying it new.
This is a fellow who had a Northstar-equipped Cadillac around that same time whose starter failed when he went to leave work one Friday. He left the car in the open-air parking garage for the night, bought a replacement starter and all the gaskets you'd need to replace it (in the Northstar it was buried in the valley between the cylinder banks, under the intake) and returned on the weekend with his tools and replaced the thing on the spot.
#27582 of 30869 Re: 1987-91 Olds 88 coupe... [ab348]
Jan 17, 2013 (6:11 am)
Not two minutes ago, from my upstairs home-office window, I spotted a white '86-'88 white Buick Park Avenue...earlier style of that body with the earlier-style trim and taillights, but looked bone-stock and took off quickly from the stop sign down the street. Funny since we were currently discussing these cars.
And people say GM's don't last.
#27583 of 30869 Re: 1987-91 Olds 88 coupe... [uplanderguy]
Jan 17, 2013 (6:35 am)
I know of someone who put over 250K on an 88 LeSabre. The car was certainly rough around the edges and leaked just about everything but it kept going on original engine/trans.
He gave it to a family member known for destroying cars and he managed to get two years out of it before something fatal happened.
I am the first one to knock the 3800/4sp when comparing to modern drivetrains (in terms of refinement/power etc) but properly maintained they are certainly bulletproof. I'd put them right up there with Ford's older "lopo" 5.0s and 4.6 modular motors.