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#27464 of 29588 Re: Valiant [berri] by andre1969

Jan 06, 2013 (8:08 pm)

Replying to: berri (Jan 06, 2013 7:51 pm)
Didn't early Hornets come without a glovebox door as well? Or was that the Gremlin?
 
And yeah, IIRC, Consumer Reports tended to rate the Maverick pretty high for reliability. In fact, I think it often placed higher than the Dart/Valiant.

#27465 of 29588 Re: Valiant [andre1969] by ab348

Jan 07, 2013 (4:33 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 06, 2013 8:08 pm)
Ours was very cold-blooded. Did not like to start or even crank when it got cold in the winter. It also had chronic front-end problems.
 
At some point Ford got rid of the under-dash shelf and added a glove box - our '74 had one. I think it was the early Gremlins that had no glove box door or even a back seat.

#27466 of 29588 Re: Valiant [ab348] by uplanderguy

Jan 07, 2013 (5:38 am)

Replying to: ab348 (Jan 07, 2013 4:33 am)
I seem to remember that Gremlins always had a glovebox door and early-on, you could get one with no back seat, but what I think you're thinking of is the Chevette Scooter. It definitely had no glovebox door and no back seat!
 
Gremlins and Hornets, at least early-on, had an open shelf under the dash also.

#27467 of 29588 Re: Valiant [uplanderguy] by andre1969

Jan 07, 2013 (7:15 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 07, 2013 5:38 am)
Gremlins and Hornets, at least early-on, had an open shelf under the dash also.
 
That might be why I'm getting confused. I remember the open shelf on the AMC cars, so that might be why I was thinking some of them lacked a glovebox.

#27468 of 29588 Re: Valiant [andre1969] by ab348

Jan 07, 2013 (8:42 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 07, 2013 7:15 am)
Yes, our Hornet had both a glove box door and an underdash shelf. I found it odd that the glovebox door seemed to be heavy diecast metal, while the shelf was the nastiest hard plastic material ever invented. I don't recall us using it much.
 
I remember when AMC updated the Hornet in '78 to become the Concord, the entire dash was redesigned and became much more conventional-looking for the times.

#27469 of 29588 Re: Valiant [ab348] by stickguy

Jan 07, 2013 (8:56 am)

Replying to: ab348 (Jan 07, 2013 8:42 am)
I must be getting old. Back in my student days (HS into college) I had a Duster, Hornet and a Gremlin (yes, I was a glutton for punishment). I just remember very few details. stuff like having a glovebox door? Not one of them! Though I am pretty sure it had a normal one with a turn knob with a key slot in it.
 
back seat, they all had that!
 
and I have no recollection of odd air vents or footwell vent boxes in the Duster. It did have a sunroof though.

#27470 of 29588 For andre... by uplanderguy

Jan 07, 2013 (8:59 am)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 07, 2013 8:56 am)
100-day '57 DeSoto restoration. I'd just post the link, but someone on the S.D.C. forum had a question about color of the car you might be able to answer and I can post back for you:
 
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?68177-quot-Cool-quot-100-d- ay-1957-DeSoto-restoration

#27471 of 29588 Re: For andre... [uplanderguy] by andre1969

Jan 07, 2013 (9:28 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Jan 07, 2013 8:59 am)
I just looked at the '57 DeSoto paint chart, and I don't see that color either. The closest that I can see is what they called "Dusty Orange" on the Firesweep, or "Tropical Coral" on the Dodges.
 
It's been a good 20 years or more, but I knew someone whose family had a 1957 DeSoto Firedome that was sort of a coral/salmon/pinkish color, but it wasn't as pink as the '57 Firesweep in that url. And interestingly, the '57 DeSoto paint chart shows no salmon color offered at all, so I guess this particular one had been a re-paint?
 
Now, the Chrysler paint chart has a color called "Shell Pink", which looks like a pale peach to me, and "Sunset Rose", which looks fairly pink, but again, not as jarring as the pink on that '57 Firesweep.
 
I have a feeling they just picked some custom pink paint for that car, and went their own route.

#27472 of 29588 Re: For andre... [andre1969] by fintail

Jan 07, 2013 (11:15 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 07, 2013 9:28 am)
If it is relatively close to looking period correct, probably no harm done with a custom color. I will admit when I see "restored" cars with colors that clearly did not exist when the car was new, questions are raised to me.
 

 
This is a pic from the local MBCA show a couple years ago. The white W111 coupe, a pristinely restored 1962 with the rare 4-speed, is in a non-original color. It was kind of a pearl white, which was not used by MB then. It works, maybe so long as it isn't in a judged show, and it suits the car. My car is correct, a type of color that maybe didn't exist much past the 60s.
 
Obscure cars this morning: immaculate ~90 Cavalier Z24 convertible, same nice condition ~85 Ciera woody I see now and then, C43 AMG.

#27473 of 29588 Re: For andre... [fintail] by uplanderguy

Jan 07, 2013 (11:28 am)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 07, 2013 11:15 am)
I like authenticity, and if it's a car I know about the colors on (most Chevys mid-sixties to around mid-eighties, and '62 and later Studes) and it's a wrong color, that's a turn off to me. My '66 Stude was a wrong color and it always bugged me the whole year I owned it, even though the car was rock-solid and looked authentic to the casual observer.

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