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#26989 of 29829 Fintail: by jrosasmc

Nov 27, 2012 (6:08 pm)

I know this Mercedes in the ad is a 1972, but what is the model designation for these cars? You'd know this better than me
 
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/3431297919.html
 
Also, while visiting my mechanic's shop the other day, he had what he said was a 1967 Mercedes 230. It was a rather homely-looking vehicle, and had a carbureted four-cylinder. Is it still considered part of the Fintail family?

#26990 of 29829 Re: Fintail: [jrosasmc] by fintail

Nov 27, 2012 (6:44 pm)

Replying to: jrosasmc (Nov 27, 2012 6:08 pm)
That ad is a final year W108. Decent deal if it is as nice as it looks, but those engines drink fuel like their American counterparts, and be very leery of rust as they like to rot. Otherwise, lots of flash or elegance for the money, underappreciated car.
 
A 230 fintail would be a single carb I6, W110, made from 1965 until very early 1968 - the lowline 6cyl car. Later "230" series cars would be 4cyl, but not starting until around 1973. If it had fins, it is considered a fintail. Fintails are W110/111/112.

#26991 of 29829 Saab 9000 CS by explorerx4

Nov 28, 2012 (4:07 pm)

It was white and looked absolutely fresh out of the wrapper.
Couldn't see any fading on the rubber trim, the lenses showed no fogging, and it didn't look like it was repainted.
Glad I let it merge in front of me from a side street, so I could follow and observe it for a mile or so.

#26992 of 29829 Re: Saab 9000 CS [explorerx4] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (9:11 am)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 28, 2012 4:07 pm)
I remember how roomy those were for their class. Not the prettiest cars, but so practical.
 
GM saved them but then sucked all the personality out of Saab.

#26993 of 29829 Re: Saab 9000 CS [ateixeira] by robr2

Nov 29, 2012 (9:14 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 9:11 am)
GM saved them but then sucked all the personality out of Saab.
 
Is personality what they called quirkiness and unreliability??
 
If not for GM, Saab would've been gone many, many years ago. GM didn't do much for them other than toss them a lifeline for a few years but at least it allowed Saab to hang on a little while longer.

#26994 of 29829 Re: Saab 9000 CS [robr2] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (9:18 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Nov 29, 2012 9:14 am)
I guess I was being nice.
 
Bob had a 9000 turbo and the lag was frightening. Said his wife almost crashed it once because the power came on so strong and suddenly.
 
Ah, Saab. Known for turbo 5 doors and GM gives them Epsilon sedans.

#26995 of 29829 Re: Saab 9000 CS [ateixeira] by uplanderguy

Nov 29, 2012 (10:41 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 9:18 am)
Ah, Saab. Known for turbo 5 doors and GM gives them Epsilon sedans.
 
I'm confused by the 'Epsilon sedans' reference. The only post-GM Saab models I remember are the ones that were just like an Olds Bravada or Buick Rainier.

#26996 of 29829 Re: Saab 9000 CS [uplanderguy] by michaell

Nov 29, 2012 (10:45 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Nov 29, 2012 10:41 am)
I'm confused by the 'Epsilon sedans' reference.
 
The last generation of the 900 series were based on the same platform as the Opel Vectra, Chevrolet Malibu and Pontiac G6 - collectively known as the "Epsilon" platform.

#26997 of 29829 Re: Saab 9000 CS [uplanderguy] by ateixeira

Nov 29, 2012 (10:46 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Nov 29, 2012 10:41 am)
The Saab 9-3 was an Epsilon, related to the G6 and Aura.
 
They took it from being a quirky turbo hatch with personality to a fairly generic sedan.
 
Worked for a very short period, but Saab got stuck selling HEAVILY discounted leases and nothing else. Residuals went down the drain.

#26998 of 29829 Re: Saab 9000 CS [ateixeira] by andre1969

Nov 29, 2012 (1:36 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 29, 2012 10:46 am)
Didn't the Saab 9-5 and Saturn L-series have a strong family resemblance, as well?

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