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I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today!

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Re: . [andre1969] by hpmctorque
Nov 08, 2009 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 08, 2009 3:27 pm)

I don't recall which model it was, because I wasn't really interested in it. It stuck in my mind, though, because I remember that it just seemed odd that a domestic motor home manufacturer would choose a Renault diesel engine. I know Renault sells a lot of diesel cars in Europe (I rented a Clio diesel in Portugal) and elsewhere, but not in the U.S.
 
I was never in the market for a motor home, but I remember thinking that if I had been, I would have avoided one with a Renault engine. My reasoning was, even if it was a good engine, there are so few of them in the U.S. that I wouldn't feel confident about parts and service beyond the warranty.
 
Incidentally, that Clio I rented performed very well, and, as might be expected, delivered great fuel economy.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by explorerx4
Nov 08, 2009 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2009 10:06 am)

under the radar - look under engines
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Re: . [explorerx4] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 08, 2009 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 08, 2009 7:50 pm)

That's not many cars---another classic case of where rare does not equal valuable.
 
Still, I wouldn't mind having one for a while. Not my kind of car but I could find some gold chains at the Thrift store
 
Here's one for sale! (scroll down)
 
http://carsforsale.classifieds1000.com/make/Lincoln/Mark_VII
 
As usual, it has the obligatory hallucinatory mileage claims we've come to know and love with sellers of diesel cars.
 
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque
Nov 08, 2009 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2009 7:54 pm)

"Not my kind of car but..."
 
Yeah, but wouldn't you prefer a V8 for the same money? I would.
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Re: . [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 09, 2009 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 08, 2009 9:31 pm)

Nah, it's too ordinary. I'd buy Lincoln diesel for the engine, not for the car. It's just weird enough to appeal to me.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Nov 09, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 09, 2009 7:07 am)

How much torque does that BMW Diesel have, I wonder? I know usually a Diesel will give up hp for additional torque, compared to a gasoline engine, but in those days they often had the bad habit of giving up both!
 
With around 116 hp, I'm guessing 0-60 in about 20 seconds or so? They were EPA-rated 23/29 (20/26 by the newer standards), so they are pretty economical for their bulk. But I don't know if I could put up with anything that slow. Maybe if you mainly just drive it around town, and all your interstate merges are long, downhill ramps.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Nov 09, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 09, 2009 7:07 am)

I'm with you on that. I'm sure the 302 in 84-85 wasn't exactly a hot rod unit anyway...might as well have something that's kind of a freakshow, and I don't think it is known to be especially problematic.
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Re: . [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 09, 2009 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 09, 2009 7:30 am)

I'd expect it to be leisurely but not that slow. A Mercedes 300D without turbo is about an 18-20 second car, so this Lincoln has more HP, same weight about, and a turbo.
 
The big problem with these older diesel "slugs" is when you get stuck in the right lane of a freeway---you don't have the power to move into the next lane to your left---it's downright scary.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by tjc78
Nov 09, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 09, 2009 8:40 am)

I have very little experience with anything Diesel except our Dodge Sprinter van here at work. I drove it recently to pick up some supplies for my showroom. From 0- 30 it felt like a race car and then the rest of the way it was very unimpressive. Once up to speed on the highway though had no trouble maintaining 75 with a full load.
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Re: . [tjc78] by andre1969
Nov 09, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Nov 09, 2009 8:48 am)

I just looked up the specs for the Sprinter 3.0, and it puts out 154 hp3400 rpm, but torque is crazy for such a little engine...280 ft-lb1200 rpm!
 
I know it would be more than likely illegal, but I wonder what kind of fuel economy you'd get out of that 3.0 if you could transplant it into a car? Say, something like my '79 New Yorker, or an 80's Town Car?

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