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Re: . [boomchek] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 07, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2009 9:56 am)

Maybe if Europe hadn't sent us only the penalty box diesels to begin with, then Americans would have a higher opinion of them than they do. All we got were clackety Benzes, bone-shaking VWs and Peugeots and Volvos, and of course American Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs (nuff said).
 
Those early diesels in America were the "obscure queens" to be sure.
 
The only BMW diesels we saw were marine turbo diesels.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by boomchek
Nov 07, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2009 10:06 am)

You're right, but lately there hasn't been any diesels from europe in the US, but in Canada we had the Grand Cherokee with the Mercedes 3.0L diesel, and the first gen smart car had a 3 cylinder diesel.
 
I haven't driven the samrt but the Grand Cherokee is really nice to drive.
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Re: . [boomchek] by fintail
Nov 07, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2009 10:13 am)

Speaking of clackety Benzes, the 730d has a cold idle noise that would scare most unwashed North Americans - it is not a silent vehicle from the outside. Inside it is very muffled and you can barely tell, but outside at low speed...no doubt what the car is. However, unlike the diesels of old, it is very smooth.
 
The lowline E200 CDi I had for a day about 2 weeks ago was the same way...it was not a discreet diesel, and you had a definite mechanical connection between your ears and the car at idle and low speeds. I don't mind it though.
 
I think it is another way Europe has progressed past NA.
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Re: . [fintail] by boomchek
Nov 07, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 07, 2009 11:16 am)

I envy your driving trip.
 
The only thing I did that was closest to it (other than my parents driving thru eastern europe to italy when I was 7) was driving on many great roads and highways in Need For Speed: Porsche Unleashed in a variety of Porsches.
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Re: . [boomchek] by fintail
Nov 07, 2009 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2009 11:19 am)

It's been pretty cool...although my Swiss friend is a train nut...so we had to take the train on most of our journeys there. Nice trains, but I like to drive I would have liked to drive more, and maybe next time, I can talk him into it.
 
He's the one who has never driven for more than a 2 hour trip, and does not like the thought of being in a car for longer than that. He drives a 2 year old Fiat Punto.
 
If one wanted, they could probably work something out where they change rentals every few days, having a variety of cars...but it would cost more no doubt. And driving here is nice...The Autobahn is not the raceway of urban legend, but it is fun and challenging...and most all roads in Germany and Switzerland are wonderfully smooth and properly banked. Taking sweeping corners at 100+ mph...it's perfection.
 
I get to soon return to the land of Beirut quality surfaces, SUV driving trophy wives, and LLCs
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Spotted... by lemko
Nov 08, 2009 (11:50 am)
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...a maroon 1965 Pontiac GTO convertible, top down, travelling south on Centre Street in Freeland, PA this morning! Could this be Dad's old car?
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque
Nov 08, 2009 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2009 10:06 am)

We also got some, but not many, Nissan, Toyota and Mazda diesels, and some of the latter were used in domestic Escorts and Lynxes (or would the plural be Lynx'?). Plus, weren't those engines also available in Tempos and Topazes or a year or two? And, oh yeah, Isuzu offered diesels in the U.S. in the early '80s, when they still sold small sedans here. Who could forget the Isuzu I-Mark diesel, and that engine was also available in the Chevette. I can recall one more; you could order a Lincoln with a BMW diesel. I wonder how many - I mean how few - of those they sold?
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Re: . [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 08, 2009 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 08, 2009 1:40 pm)

That's right. And in motorhomes, of course, you could get a BMW diesel.
 
You will occasionally see one of those diesel Contis for sale. Probably an interesting car to have if you could get it for maybe $1000 or so.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque
Nov 08, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2009 1:54 pm)

Motor homes aren't my thing, but I seem to remember that there was a smallish motor home model with, of all things, a Renault diesel, sold in the U.S. Also, I believe there were or are some with VW diesels.
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Re: . [hpmctorque] by andre1969
Nov 08, 2009 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 08, 2009 3:18 pm)

I think Winnebago still makes a semi-compact motorhome with a VW Diesel. I wonder if that old motorhome with the Renaut Diesel was the Winnebago LeSharo?

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